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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / 4x4 Cars / June 2004

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Suspension AND Body lift?

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JoeArmy99 - 25 Jun 2004 05:02 GMT
Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
be possible to add a 2" body lift?..I ask because I already have a complete 2"
suspension lift kit I got for free (Used)..Would a 2" body lift kit require
something additional with the suspension beyond what would be in the 2"
suspension lift?..Thanks
Roger Brown - 25 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT
>  Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
> like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
> be possible to add a 2" body lift?..I ask because I already have a complete 2"
> suspension lift kit I got for free (Used)..Would a 2" body lift kit require
> something additional with the suspension beyond what would be in the 2"
> suspension lift?..Thanks

Generally no problems mixing the two lifts.  I run a body and suspension
lift on my Toyota, the combination works well.  Since the body lift only
raises the body off the frame, there is usually no interaction with the
suspension lift, which raises the frame (and body) off of the axles:
    http://www.4Crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BodyLiftKit.shtml#Lifts

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Will Honea - 25 Jun 2004 19:25 GMT
>  Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
> like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
> be possible to add a 2" body lift?..I ask because I already have a complete 2"
> suspension lift kit I got for free (Used)..Would a 2" body lift kit require
> something additional with the suspension beyond what would be in the 2"
> suspension lift?..Thanks

Cherokee uses "uniframe" construction - body is welded to and forms
part of the frame.  That means you can't (easily) separate the body
from the frame so body lifts really don't apply to the XJ.

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Roger Brown - 25 Jun 2004 23:31 GMT
> >  Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
> > like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
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> part of the frame.  That means you can't (easily) separate the body
> from the frame so body lifts really don't apply to the XJ.

I know at some point the Cherokee with to the uniframe construction, not
sure the year that transition happened, though.

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Will Honea - 26 Jun 2004 07:44 GMT
> > >  Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
> > > like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
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> I know at some point the Cherokee with to the uniframe construction, not
> sure the year that transition happened, though.

It's been that way since at least '85 according to my FSM dates.  I
think the Wagoneer that preceded the XJ may have had a full frame
(never looked) but the XJ has had a uniframe from day one.

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JoeArmy99 - 26 Jun 2004 12:29 GMT
Thanks for the info guys..I didn`t know about the body welding etc and was just
bouncing the idea around in my head since I saw some body lift kits listed
somewhere
Roger Brown - 26 Jun 2004 17:45 GMT
> It's been that way since at least '85 according to my FSM dates.  I
> think the Wagoneer that preceded the XJ may have had a full frame
> (never looked) but the XJ has had a uniframe from day one.

Thanks for the information, and yes, uni-frame construction essentially
rules out a body lift.

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burntkat - 27 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT
Cherokees- <XJs> always had uniframe construction. You're confusing it with
the earlier fullsize SJ platform, which did have a Cherokee sub-model. The
SJ had a full frame.

> > >  Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
> > > like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I know at some point the Cherokee with to the uniframe construction, not
> sure the year that transition happened, though.
burntkat - 27 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT
Actually, the body IS the frame-- so they can't be seperated.

The "rails" under the body only serve to mount crossmembers and to slightly
stiffen the entire structure.

A minor point, sure-- but nonetheless important.

> >  Is it possible to use both a suspension and a body lift on a vehicle?..Say
> > like a 1994 Jeep Cherokee..If one has a 2" suspension lift kits would it also
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> part of the frame.  That means you can't (easily) separate the body
> from the frame so body lifts really don't apply to the XJ.
 
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