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I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I assume the excess will just drip out? <chop> > engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I > assume the excess will just drip out? A little bit won't hurt but,,,, if it is way over full your crankshaft will have to fight it's way through the oil so your mileage and power will suffer. I lost a fuelpump diaphram on a 327 once and filled the crankcase with gas. Had one hell of a leak, out the dipstick, oil filler cap, blew pcv out. Sure smoked a lot too. Willy > <chop> >> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Willy Thanks for the quick reply. The engine sounds/runs normal (i.e. great) and the tailpipe emissions are normal (clear). I love the 4.3 Vortec...just wanted to make sure nothing damages my "baby". haha >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent >damage? I assume the excess will just drip out? How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? Doc >>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil >>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Doc I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to ride up the stem of the dipstick. >> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? >> >> Doc > > I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to ride > up the stem of the dipstick. Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2". Doc >>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Doc Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc? >>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to >>> ride up the stem of the dipstick. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, > Doc? It's fine. Your truck takes about 4.75 qts and they likely just added 5 qts. 1/2" over "full" ain't going to hurt anything. Doc >>>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to >>>> ride up the stem of the dipstick. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Doc Doc is right. The idea that your crank will have to spin through the extra 1/2 quart is just wrong. Same for any idea about it causing foaming and thus bearing failure. When we used to rebuild engines we put an extra quart in to be sure the new motor had plenty. A half quart overfill won't hurt anything. >>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc? The diagnosis is "Nitwitcity" IOW, you paid Mr Goodwrench to screw up your vehicle. The crankshaft can churn the oil causing it to become entrained with air bubbles, and this is not a good thing for your main bearings. Dump the extra, do it now. And don't go back to the jerk you paid to screw up your ride. Lg >>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Lg Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the oil)? > Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the oil)? I hope for you it is "doc" Or you can just take it out / have it taken out and spend a $ 19.95 on a oil change Or a couple of thousand on a motor You do the math.............. Johan >>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Johan Hi... Maybe I'm over-simplifying... but the oil's new; why replace it? Why not just loosen the plug and let a bit out? Heck, clean the drain pan thoroughly first and save what you remove for a top-up. Course I am from the waste not want not generation :) Ken Best advice right here. Can't hurt to to have the correct amount of oil, and it's not too tough to let a bit out. >>>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Ken > >>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ken Yeah, sounds good too Long story short , why take the change........ Johan Different engines exhibit different degrees of sensitivity to oil overfill. My one data point regarding the 4.3 as installed in the S10-based Blazer is that it's not too crabby about it. At the other extreme would be the 4AFE in my mother's Corolla, which emits a faint but distinct "hey, lemme outta here!" noise at idle (goes away with any noticeable revs) if you put in a bit too much oil. Note that if you replace oil by lining up the empties rather than by dipstick measurement, there *is* going to be some error unless you carefully let all the oil drain down through the engine and then into the drip pan. Being in a hurry or doing it on a surface that slopes in the wrong direction -- common sins of Lube'n'Leave and of do-it-yourselfers, respectively -- are pretty much guaranteed to leave some ounces of old oil in there. This is worsened, of course, by car-manufacturer brain trusts who choose not to design oil pans such that a change with new filter consumes an integral number of quart bottles, as it usually did in days of old. Anyway, I'm with the fellow who advised loosening the plug enough to let several ounces trickle out and then tightening it back, adding more to achieve a level no higher than the hashmarked "normal" range of the dipstick. Cheers, --Joe Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in article <%mMwd.537369$%k.220965@pd7tw2no>... > >>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ken I overfilled mine once, by 1/2 quart, and just loostened the plug and let 1/2 qt out like you said. BUT I wouldnt think of reusing it, in case it picked up and particles on the outside of the oil pan. Sure, the motor might be $2000, but putting the damn thing in is probably $5000 in that newfangled pice of s*it car. Thank got my 81 and 85 trucks arent that way. Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart. KenG > Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in article > <%mMwd.537369$%k.220965@pd7tw2no>... [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart. > KenG You might want to take the filter off and drain it, but I'd put the same filter back on. They cost money ya know. Brian >>Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart. >>KenG [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Brian Hi... Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ? And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure, while the filter fills, right? Ken > >>Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart. > >>KenG [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ken This thread has lost all control, lol > > >>Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart. > > >>KenG [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > This thread has lost all control, lol agreed, this thread is now to the 'jeez, get a f*cking life!' point............... > Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ? > > And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another > few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure, > while the filter fills, right? This is now an official "Lawrence Glickman" f.cked up thread. Ian >> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Ian Suck my dick Ian. I didn't bring this *leaker* into this thread. Go f.ck yourself with a broomstick. I knew there was a reason I had you killfiled. PLONK Lg >>> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Lg Glickman, you've just got to be one of the dumbest a.sholes on UseNet. If you actually had Ian killfiled you wouldn't have even seen the post that you just replied to. I'd have killfiled you long ago except that you're posts have some entertainment value. Just when I think you couldn't possibly say anything dumber you prove me wrong. Bob >>>> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >just replied to. I'd have killfiled you long ago except that you're posts >have some entertainment value. Name a SINGLE technical error I've made this week, or any week. Name ONE. > Just when I think you couldn't possibly say >anything dumber you prove me wrong. Well bobbie, you live in a world of stupidity, so it doesn't surprise me that everything you see looks stupid to you. Now Name a SINGLE technical eror I've made, and the entire Usenet is WAITING..................................................................................... Lg > Bob > Name a SINGLE technical error I've made this week, or any week. > Name ONE. As of yesterday (12-19), the "Help diagnose starting problem" thread. No starter motor action and there you were, blathering about Throttle Position Sensors, vacuum leaks, MAF sensors, fuel pressure under load and your tinker toy scan tool. That's five technical errors in ONE post! Any other questions? >> Name a SINGLE technical error I've made this week, or any week. >> Name ONE. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Any other questions? Yes just one. WHY DO YOU EXIST? You have never, to my knowledge, contributed -anything- to the n/g except negative criticism. If that was my car, I would take a jump kit and connect it across the starter contacts and see if it spins. That's just me. Takes 1 minute. The problem as I understood it, was that the OP's car was *cutting out* while driving. Different, eh? Not what you said, what HE said. I reiterate, you are useless as a source of information. In fact, worse than useless. You are not a contributor, you are a troll. PLONK Lg > >Any other questions? > > Yes just one. > WHY DO YOU EXIST? Because nothing has been able to kill me yet. (not for a lack of opportunity though) > You have never, to my knowledge, contributed -anything- to the n/g > except negative criticism. Key words being "to my [your] knowledge." > If that was my car, I would take a jump kit and connect it across the > starter contacts and see if it spins. That's just me. Takes 1 > minute. Really? What happened to your thoughts of connecting your scan tool as posted previously? Seriously, how the hell can you misinterpret a statement like; >>> When they turn the starter switch, nothing >>> happens. You can't even hear the solenoid clicking or the >>> starter trying to engage. No sound at all. > The problem as I understood it, was that the OP's car was *cutting > out* while driving. Different, eh? Not what you said, what HE said. What "he" said is directly above, it has >>> in front of it. Put your finger underneath each word and sound them out if you have to, take notes and reference them as often as you need. > I reiterate, you are useless as a source of information. In fact, > worse than useless. You are not a contributor, you are a troll. Gee Lawrence, you -did- ask the question, I merely provided examples that satisfied your query. > PLONK Fine by me... >> >Any other questions? >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >Fine by me... I never -really- plonk anybody. I just say that for some reason; knee-jerk reaction. I think you're an OK guy even if you don't like me. Makes no difference one way or another, but you're OK by me. So is about everybody else. Lg >>> >Any other questions? >>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Lg Geez Larry, you should really make sure and stay on your medication. It works wonders. Bob >>>> >Any other questions? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >works wonders. > Bob How nice of you to be concerned about my Health. What a wonderful gesture of warm Humanity. I feel renewed. BTW, I hope you enjoy your Holiday Season and find some happiness in it. This can be a tough time of year for a lot of people, being mixed in with *relatives* they can't stand ;-\ Lg aarcuda69062 proclaimed: >>Name a SINGLE technical error I've made this week, or any week. >>Name ONE. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any other questions? Well, shyeagh dude, the poor misguided fact-challenged OP told you to name a "SINGLE" error... > > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >WAITING..................................................................................... > Don't now how to use spell check? >Lg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >> >>> Bob This is always the Last Resort of the Troll. If you can win an argument with logic, go after typographical errors. Now even you have to admit, that is about a Lame as it gets. You can do better if you try. Lg <snip> >>>Now Name a SINGLE technical eror I've made, and the entire Usenet is >>>WAITING..................................................................................... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Lg > You asked, I answered. You can do better too. > Glickman, you've just got to be one of the dumbest a.sholes on UseNet. If > you actually had Ian killfiled you wouldn't have even seen the post that > you just replied to. I'd have killfiled you long ago except that you're > posts have some entertainment value. Just when I think you couldn't > possibly say anything dumber you prove me wrong. > Bob You sure this weiner isn't Dean Tardwin in drag?? His "style" seems awfully familiar. Any tech geeks out there who can check the message headers and see if it's coming from Wisconsin!? Doc "Doc" wrote: > You sure this weiner isn't Dean Tardwin in drag?? His "style" seems > awfully familiar. Any tech geeks out there who can check the message > headers and see if it's coming from Wisconsin!? No, I think we had this discussion a while back. Glicky is just a "dean" wannabe. I thought he was gone for a while, but I guess he's poked his little ol head back up again. Drives a Ford...serves him right! He'll be in the shop on Monday bitching about his "brown" trans fluid....hopefully they will tell him to go "f.ck himself". Ian > Suck my dick Ian. > I didn't bring this *leaker* into this thread. > Go f.ck yourself with a broomstick. > I knew there was a reason I had you killfiled. > > PLONK Oooooohh....noooooo....you "plonked" me!!! I guess I've been told. Good luck on Monday, I hope they run you out of the shop on a rail. A little bit of tar and feathers wouldn't hurt either. Ian >:|>>> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message >:|>>> news:RZadnUZrRPB1217cRVn-gQ@comcast.com... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >:| >:|Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the oil)? leave it alone.... a 1/2" high on the dipstick is negligible.... don't worry about it unless you're a couple of inches above the full mark. -Bret > >>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the oil)? Doc's right, as long as it's no more than 1/2" over full your OK. My 1994 Z34 has the 3.4 liter motor that takes a small oil filter and the manual states 5-1/2 qts. with a filter change. I've put 6 qts. in it ever time I've changed the oil. The motor has 126,000 fairly hard miles on it and runs like new still. Brian >>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Lg You're not kidding, I had a new exhaust system installed recently and it fell off the same day...turns out they didn't clamp the muffler down tight enough! > >>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? > >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc? 1/2" won't hurt you at all. That equates to about 1/2 quart. I always put in 5 quarts with filter change in the wifes 4.3. Look at it this way. The sump holds 3 quarts without touching the crank (the crank is actually 1" or so in the oil before the pump starts working). Now when you actually start the engine the oil pump does it's job. On the 4X4 with the small filter the filter holds 1/2 quart, the lines and cooler hold another 1/2 quart. Now add the oil passages in the engine up and that takes another 1.5 quarts. What does that leave in the sump? Correct , 2 quarts. If it takes 3 quarts to get to the crank you still have 1 quart to play with. Now if you go nuts and dump 6-7 quarts in you will have problems. To jump in, and repeat what others are going to say, 1/2" should not cause any problems. It will allow you to go a bit further before adding oil, if you had to add oil before. >>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc? > To jump in, and repeat what others are going to say, 1/2" should not > cause any problems. It will allow you to go a bit further before > adding oil, if you had to add oil before. Exactly! And think about this guys, the accuracy that the dip stick tube is press into the block is probably +/- 0.035" and the tolerance on the dip stick pressed into the handle is probably about the same. So right off the bat a Friday or Monday car is 0.070" off location to begin with. Grant it that's not that much but it just shows that this method of fluid checking isn't that accurate or does it need to be. After all if you drive up hill, down hill, or around corners the level changes all the time anyway. Brian > > To jump in, and repeat what others are going to say, 1/2" should not > > cause any problems. It will allow you to go a bit further before [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Brian Plus, some 'flat' surfaces where people check the dipstick are not entirely flat so the reading can be slightly off. I've also intentionally overfilled (slightly) cars that use/burn/leak oil in the past. It reduces the much greater risk of damage from having too little oil, and I never saw any problems from it. -John So what's the problem? If it is over filled, either do it yourself, take you vehicle to a shop, remove the oil, refill with the proper amount of oil, end of problem. mike hunt > I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change > on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I > assume the excess will just drip out? All the above said if the oil is too high it will be turned to foam by the crankshaft and the bearings will be starved of oil and burn up. If it is more than 1/2 inch above full drain it and fill correctly... >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent >damage? I assume the excess will just drip out? Drain the oil pan and refill. But I will bet the shop didnot over fill the engine , I bet that is coolant in your oil. On that engine I bet your intake gasket has failed or the intake manifold has corroded through. Is your coolant level going down? Good Luck ! Scott > All the above said if the oil is too high it will be turned to foam by the > crankshaft and the bearings will be starved of oil and burn up. If it is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>been thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any >>permanent damage? I assume the excess will just drip out? Wouldn't that show up in the oil pressure? The pressure is in the normal operating range. This is a very educational thread! If it shows up in the oil pressure it is too late.... >> All the above said if the oil is too high it will be turned to foam by >> the crankshaft and the bearings will be starved of oil and burn up. If it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Wouldn't that show up in the oil pressure? The pressure is in the normal > operating range. This is a very educational thread! Maybe a burst fuel pump diaphram? I know if it goes on a Ford it will fill the crankcase with gasoline.  SignatureSpinner Baits Tips & Tricks Contest featuring Secret Weapon Lures in December ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com > I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change > on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I > assume the excess will just drip out? Wouldn't the oil smell like gas then? It still smells like oil. Also, the fuel gauge hasn't moved down abnormally. > Maybe a burst fuel pump diaphram? I know if it goes on a Ford it will > fill [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I >> assume the excess will just drip out? > Wouldn't the oil smell like gas then? It still smells like oil. Also, the > fuel gauge hasn't moved down abnormally. I am going to side with Doc on this, 1/2" over the full mark wont hurt a thing, like he said they put 5 qts instead of 4.5 qts in.(based on the 90 some odd oil changes my 91 has had in its 202,000 mile life time) 1/2 qt aint going to hurt a 4.3, the oil level still wont be close to the crank so no frothing at the dip stick to worry about.. I got a kick out of how these threads get all bent out of shape, Spider don't worry about a fuel pump diaphragm because your truck doesn't have one, its fuel injected and has an electric fuel pump mounted in the tank. And where did he say anywhere in his posts that he took it of Mr. Goodwrench? Given you have a 4X4, removing the oil filter usually results in some spilt oil on the frame and skid plate, the drips in the drive way are probably from that. Good shop would have cleaned it up. Whitelightning >> Wouldn't the oil smell like gas then? It still smells like oil. Also, the >> fuel gauge hasn't moved down abnormally. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Whitelightning I originally asked the question because I did not want to waste fresh oil for no good reason....and in my case, it looks like there isn't one. I looked under the hood and DID notice some oil dripping down the skid plate....like you said, it must have gotten spilt when they changed the filter. I wiped up the excess and hopefully that will be the end of the little oil drips! Thanks....very good and sensible post (just what I was looking for)! Slight overfill... probably not. More than slight... maybe. I've read that over filling can lead to rear or front bearing seal failure. Failed seals can lead to well, let the experts in here tell you. >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change >on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I >assume the excess will just drip out? >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent >damage? I assume the excess will just drip out? f'in hell all this over a pissy drop to much and that guy that said drain it out and save it must be on skid row. toy >>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil >>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >toy Look guy, I'm not saying his is over full to the point that it's a problem. In fact, I'm inclined to believe the consensus on here that a 1/2" above full on that engine is no big deal. What I am saying, is that if the oil does get too far over filled, that I have read that seals can be compromised. I am also saying, that it is a very easy thing (for most guys) to let out a little excess oil from the drain plug. So putting it all together, on balance, myself I would just drain a bit off so that it was in the correct range on the dip stick. Then nothing is left to any chance, and it isn't tough to make happen. But it's a free country and everyone is entitled to their own judgement on the matter. > >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil > >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > toy This whole thread is commonly refered to as a "cluster f.ck" I'm not refering to any particular poster but the thread as a whole. Poor Spiderman has to wade through a mountain of misinformation to get a simple answer. Too many people taking guesses without actually knowing the correct answer to the simplest questions. I'm not intending to insult anyone, everyone want's to help which can only be good. It's sort of like Kubbyk299 asking what the hose is on the coolant reservoir, then going on to try and diagnose other peoples cooling problems with wild guesses. This is the nature of humans >> >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil >> >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >This is the nature of humans TaskMule. Some dipsticks ( not referring to anybody in particular here ), have stamped on them DO NOT OVERFILL. There just _has_ to be a reason for that don't you think ? Now I'll be the first to admitt that a 1/2 quart *over* is no cause for concern in a V6 or bigger, but it -could- be in a 4 banger. The term the OP used was WAY OFF THE CHARTS. Well, way off the charts means just that, that the top of the oil in the crank case is too close to the crankshaft, or has immersed it partially. This is NOT a good thing, for the reason I stated. You'll end up pumping foam instead of oil. Air is NOT a recommended lubricant in any Service Manual I've ever come across. Regards, Lg Personally, I'd just climb underneath and let some of the extra oil out. But, if you have an aversion to getting under there and making a mess, there may be a simpler solution.... To change the oil in my inboard-outboard boat, I pump it out through the dipstick. That's the way it's done in boats. So, you could drop by your local boating store and pick up a pump for $20 or less. Pump the extra half-quart out and save it for later. No mess, and you'll have a handly little pump left over that you can use for something else in the future. Personally, I've never done this on an automobile, so take this advice with a grain of salt.... Just make sure the tubing used on the pump will fit into your dipstick tube. >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change >on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I >assume the excess will just drip out? I over filled my truck once...about one or two, yeah, I think two tablespoons too much...just kept pushing the dipstick in, pull it out, wipe, push it in, pull it out, wipe. It was an easy way to bring her back to level. I bet you can eliminate that 1/2 inch in a day or two the same way. (*wink*) > Personally, I'd just climb underneath and let some of the extra oil out. > But, if [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I >>assume the excess will just drip out? >I over filled my truck once... only once? sh.t man, you're slackin off >about one or two, yeah, I think two >tablespoons too much...just kept pushing the dipstick in, pull it out, wipe, >push it in, pull it out, wipe. It was an easy way to bring her back to >level. I bet you can eliminate that 1/2 inch in a day or two the same way. >(*wink*) You're supposed to be in bed by 6pm. I'm going to tell your mommy. Don't forget you have dress-rehersal for the Christmas play at your elementary school tomorrow. Lg They have those for cars too, but I have never used one in the whole 30 years that I have been changing oil. You dont even need ramps to drain most trucks, so i could drain 1/2 quart from mine in about 1 1/2 minuits max after I find my wrench. nospam@pleasedontspamme.com wrote in article <cq1ouh019aj@drn.newsguy.com>... > Personally, I'd just climb underneath and let some of the extra oil out. But, if > you have an aversion to getting under there and making a mess, there may be a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change > >on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the > >charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I > >assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not > >warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the > >engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I > >assume the excess will just drip out? Lots of answers to this, but no one mentioned that the right way to do this is to change your oil and filter yourself and avoid overtightened 'stripped out' or 'not tightened' pan plugs. Go by the book and put THAT amount in, and use the dipstick as a guide only for topping off later. I say go by the book, because I worked on one vehicle that had the wrong dipstick in it, and you might be surprised how often the 'right' dipstick can be off at least half an inch. Changing oil is not a big deal and is cheaper, quicker and safer than having a mentally challenged garage helper do it. >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change >on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I >assume the excess will just drip out? <SNIP> > Changing oil is not a big deal and is cheaper, quicker and safer than > having a mentally challenged garage helper do it. Cheaper? I pay about 20 bucks - How much cheaper can it be to buy the sh.t to do it myself? Quicker? It takes them about 20 minutes. How much faster could I do it myself? Safer? How much safer would it be for me to get under there myself? Mentally challenged? Some of them are, of course. Most have just as much mechanical ability as you! You're right, changing oil is no big deal, but look at the real world. Lots of folks are stuck with street parking, no knowledge, and no tools. Some pay because they have to; some pay because of convenience. I pay to have it done but before I drive away, I do a quick check to make sure I still have a dipstick, an oil cap, and to see that they "did" change the filter and other things they were supposed to do. >convenience. I pay to have it done but before I drive away, I do a quick >check to make sure I still have a dipstick, an oil cap, and to see that they >"did" change the filter and other things they were supposed to do. If you're going through that much trouble to second guess their work then you'd be better off doing it yourself then you would know that the above mentioned items would still be there. In the long term.. less stress on your part having people handle your vehicle. If you have to go through those checks when they simply do an oil change then obviously you don't trust the mechanics you bring your vehicle to. Go to another garage ><SNIP> >> Changing oil is not a big deal and is cheaper, quicker and safer than [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >check to make sure I still have a dipstick, an oil cap, and to see that they >"did" change the filter and other things they were supposed to do. LOL, It is -30C this morning. On such a day it is ALWAYS safer to get someone else to do it. An oil change is much more than the crankcase. They change the filter, grease the chassis, check the oil in the pumpkins. They have a hoist so they can take the pressure off the ball joints so they can be filled. All this takes more than 20 minutes for me (in my gravel driveway) and we have 3 trucks. At 52 years old I can think of some things I would have others do. Oil changes and exhaust systems comes to mind. I have to save huge sheets of cardboard to lay under the truck on and they don't :) Merry Christmas one and all. Gordie -- Best Regards Gordie The real problem is people don't develop a relationship with a garage, they don't get to know a shop. They take it to some oil change joint for that and pay too much, another place for ac and yet another when it isn't running right. and more than likely never the same place twice in a row. I dont change oil. I have a shop that does that for me, I've known the owner for 10 years plus. He's the only one that has touched my truck besides myself. I bring him the oil and filter, walk across the street to the dinner, have breakfast, bring him back a cup of coffee and a bagal, pay him $20 and drive away. I buy the oil by the case and enough oil filters to go with it. Grab a couple sets of wiper blades(Florida sun is hell on blades), and couple air filters at the same time. Every third oil change he rotates and balances tires and checks the alignment, and does a brake inspection. The alternative is drag out jack stands and jack, crawl under, drain, replace filter, shake front end down and lube, check u-joints, check diff lube level. Get it off the jack stands, fill the crank, check the power steering fluid, check the tranny fluid. drain the drain pan into a container of some kind, clean the pan, and other tools used, put everything away. Wash hands, change out of old clothes worn. And then find some place to get rid of the old oil. Still have to take it some place for the rotate, balance and alignment check. Whiteightning "The Nolalu Barn Owl" > LOL, > It is -30C this morning. On such a day it is ALWAYS safer to get [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a hoist so they can take the pressure off the ball joints so they can > be filled. Most of the oil change places use a basement "pit" as opposed to a hoist though. Also how many of them wipe the grease nipples before applying the grease gun. usually they just jamb it on and pump sandy gritty grease into the ball joint. I once asked the guy in the pit to wipe each nipple before greasing and he looked at me like I was insane. B > Also how many of them wipe the grease nipples before applying the grease > gun. > usually they just jamb it on and pump sandy gritty grease into the ball > joint. > I once asked the guy in the pit to wipe each nipple before greasing and he > looked at me like I was insane. Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on. Whitelightning > Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on. Right....I'd like to see you pre-fill the oil filter on an Ecotec 4 cylinder engine. And many other engines....good luck! Ian >> Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ian Bingo. The majority of 4-bangers I've worked on have the filter mounted parallel to the ground, making it just a wee bit difficult <read:impossible> to pre-oil the filter before install. Doc Has anybody checked the oil yet to see if coolant getting in there, Im wooried because he said the oil was light brown. Scott > >> Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on. > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Doc You might not be able to completely fill it on all cars, but even if you can get 1/4 qt in a 1/2 qt filter you have lessened the amount of time with no oil pressure. I remember a few cars were your hands were completely tied over the years, like the Chrysler slant six with the filter mounted upside down, or more than a few toyotas were the filter was mounted angled down, or any engine that used a cartridge instead of a spin on filter. Whitelightning |
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