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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / 4x4 Cars / February 2005

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Opinions on mid-90's Toyota Land Cruisers?

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Jeff Olsen - 12 Feb 2005 07:24 GMT
I am considering one of these to use as a family "tank".  We are an
adventurous family so the 4x4 aspect is important, as is the general
heavy-duty construction of the LC.  I am limiting my search to '93-'97 since
I want the better engine and don't want IFS.  It would see mostly on-road
use but will see a lot of ice and snow and potentially bad dirt roads.  I
own a Jeep Wrangler, and I don't need this to do what that will do, but I do
appreciate that the LC is supposed to be a tough, reliable truck.  Any
opinions one way or the other?

Thank you!

-jeff
Erik-Jan Geniets - 12 Feb 2005 11:27 GMT
> I am considering one of these to use as a family "tank".  We are an
> adventurous family so the 4x4 aspect is important, as is the general
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>
> -jeff

A great car. Maybe the best. The LWB version will give you a lot of room
too.
If diesels are available in your part of the world, go for one.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.
Peter D. Hipson - 12 Feb 2005 13:41 GMT
Don't all the 'after 1990 (or so)' have IFS? (I don't know, but that
feels more correct...)

>I am considering one of these to use as a family "tank".  We are an
>adventurous family so the 4x4 aspect is important, as is the general
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>-jeff
Erik-Jan Geniets - 12 Feb 2005 18:48 GMT
> Don't all the 'after 1990 (or so)' have IFS? (I don't know, but that
> feels more correct...)

Where does IFS stand for..?
Erik-Jan.
John Hinkley - 12 Feb 2005 18:54 GMT
Independent front suspension, or as some would say, inefficient fragile suspension.

: > Don't all the 'after 1990 (or so)' have IFS? (I don't know, but that
: > feels more correct...)
:
: Where does IFS stand for..?
: Erik-Jan.
Erik-Jan Geniets - 12 Feb 2005 19:21 GMT
> Independent front suspension, or as some would say, inefficient fragile suspension.

Ai, that would be a bad development. I can hardly imagine this. Hope it
depends on the model.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.
Peter D. Hipson - 12 Feb 2005 18:59 GMT
Independant Front Suspension (Rather than a solid axel as a Jeep
Wrangler has. Most SUVs have IFS because it gives better ride and
handling.

However, the Toyota Land Cruiser seems to be made in many variations.
Here in the US it is purely a 'socker mom' vehicle, I've never seen a
recent one off-roaded. They are intended to compete with the Land
Rover's Range Rover SUV which is a very high-end (until recently) SUV
for 'rich folks'. <g>

>> Don't all the 'after 1990 (or so)' have IFS? (I don't know, but that
>> feels more correct...)
>
>Where does IFS stand for..?
>Erik-Jan.
Erik-Jan Geniets - 12 Feb 2005 19:25 GMT
> However, the Toyota Land Cruiser seems to be made in many variations.
> Here in the US it is purely a 'socker mom' vehicle, I've never seen a
> recent one off-roaded. They are intended to compete with the Land
> Rover's Range Rover SUV which is a very high-end (until recently) SUV
> for 'rich folks'. <g>

Know what you mean. I was talking about the 'classic' model.
Do not know how to differentiate. They are both labeled Landcruiser.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.
Generic - 13 Feb 2005 00:57 GMT
> Independant Front Suspension (Rather than a solid axel as a Jeep
> Wrangler has. Most SUVs have IFS because it gives better ride and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Rover's Range Rover SUV which is a very high-end (until recently) SUV
> for 'rich folks'. <g>

Somewhat off topic, but have you seen this one:

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/fj_cruiser/index.html

http://tinyurl.com/5cs9n

http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000650030944/

It seems to compete with the Xterra and Liberty.

-John
Corey Shuman - 16 Feb 2005 15:05 GMT
Im curious as to why the Rangie is not a "high end" SUV anymore... the
ones out here in Utah are still selling for 75-90k new. Thats pretty
high end for me... sure, you get what you pay for and the independant
susp all around is not like the usual, it is computer monitored to
simulate a solid axle.. ie, one wheel goes up and the bags will inflate
to push the opposite wheel down. Its really sweet and works very well
from what Ive seen.
Jeff Olsen - 15 Feb 2005 08:39 GMT
>> Don't all the 'after 1990 (or so)' have IFS? (I don't know, but that
>> feels more correct...)
>
> Where does IFS stand for..?
> Erik-Jan.

Independant Front Suspension- up to '97 they had a solid front axle...

-jeff
Erik-Jan Geniets - 15 Feb 2005 09:53 GMT
> Independant Front Suspension- up to '97 they had a solid front axle...

So a pre 1997 one is the way to go then.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 17 Feb 2005 05:48 GMT
> > Independant Front Suspension- up to '97 they had a solid front axle...
> >
> So a pre 1997 one is the way to go then.
> Kind regards,
> Erik-Jan.

Through '97, they had solid axles. The model number is FJ80. The next
version (with the V8 and IFS) is an FJ100. This is all specific to the
USA. I believe that the FJ100 wouldn't sell in Australia with IFS, so
they are available with solid axles there.

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