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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / 4x4 Cars / April 2005

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87 Dodge W150 Spicer 44 rebuild

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AlaskanFishGuide - 18 Mar 2005 06:43 GMT
HELP!!!  I am trying to rebuild my spicer 44-8FD front axle on my 87
Dodge W150.  I am comfortable around tools and don't mind getting
dirty... however I cannot seem to get the ring and pinion free from the
housing. I have removed the bearing caps, pried, pulled, smashed, etc
and can't seem to get the carriers to budge.  Any ideas?
Mike Romain - 18 Mar 2005 15:36 GMT
You don't mention that you removed the axles yet....?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> HELP!!!  I am trying to rebuild my spicer 44-8FD front axle on my 87
> Dodge W150.  I am comfortable around tools and don't mind getting
> dirty... however I cannot seem to get the ring and pinion free from the
> housing. I have removed the bearing caps, pried, pulled, smashed, etc
> and can't seem to get the carriers to budge.  Any ideas?
AlaskanFishGuide - 18 Mar 2005 16:56 GMT
Thanks for the reply.  Sorry I didn't mention it, but I did indeed
remove the front axles (all three).
Mike Romain - 18 Mar 2005 20:35 GMT
Well, my Dana 30 was sort of stuck in there when I changed the seals and
I just gave it a pop pry with a bar and out it came.  The bearings were
in there snug and the gear oil was making them suction stick.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> Thanks for the reply.  Sorry I didn't mention it, but I did indeed
> remove the front axles (all three).
AlaskanFishGuide - 18 Mar 2005 22:55 GMT
Where did you pry?  Behind the carriers or on the inside of the ring
gear?  Did one side come out easier than the other?
Mike Romain - 19 Mar 2005 15:56 GMT
I am right handed mostly so I pried on the right side bearing with a
small bar.  Once the suction let lose on the one side, the other side
fell out fast.  Sort of pop and grab quick before it beaned me.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> Where did you pry?  Behind the carriers or on the inside of the ring
> gear?  Did one side come out easier than the other?
AlaskanFishGuide - 19 Mar 2005 17:19 GMT
Thanks for the information.  I'll keep trying.
Peter D. Hipson - 19 Mar 2005 23:31 GMT
Are you using a case spreader?

(what's that, he says...)

>Thanks for the information.  I'll keep trying.
AlaskanFishGuide - 20 Mar 2005 07:28 GMT
Peter,

"What's that" I do say...  I don't own one and am not using one... is
that the secret?
Peter D. Hipson - 20 Mar 2005 14:53 GMT
A case spreader is a tool that pushes the case apart (not by much, a
few thousandths of a inch...) to allow the carrier to be removed. They
are used on AMC 20's, 44's and some other diffs. Looks like a box or
square with threaded ends with pins that go into the case on eiather
side. You then open it up and lift out the carrier (the center of the
box or square of the spreader is large enough to get the carrier
through.

>Peter,
>
>"What's that" I do say...  I don't own one and am not using one... is
>that the secret?
AlaskanFishGuide - 20 Mar 2005 19:01 GMT
Thanks Peter,

I'll look into that.
Mike Romain - 23 Mar 2005 00:48 GMT
They didn't use one of those on my 44 when I recently had new bearings
put in.  The carrier popped loose just fine and the bearings got
changed.  The carrier didn't need to be removed from the case though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> Are you using a case spreader?
>
> (what's that, he says...)
>
> >Thanks for the information.  I'll keep trying.
Mark R - 02 Apr 2005 14:52 GMT
hey there..how did you finally make out with the differential..did you have
to use a spreader or did it pop out..I just have to replace the right side
oil seal , and was curious.

Thx Mark
Mike Romain - 02 Apr 2005 15:31 GMT
Why are you folks removing the guts?

You can rebuild the whole works with all new seals and bearings and the
guts can stay inside the pumpkin.  I recently had the bearings,
including pinion bearings and seals in my 44 done and watched him.  

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> hey there..how did you finally make out with the differential..did you have
> to use a spreader or did it pop out..I just have to replace the right side
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