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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / 4x4 Cars / May 2006

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Help!  Can't Find Decent Riding 4x4 SUV with Manual Trans

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Michael Adams - 27 Apr 2006 18:19 GMT
I am looking for a 4x4 SUV with a manual transmission (most models only have
an automatic now), and NOT one which is a converted front wheel drive, such
as the CRV and RAV4.  I will be using it for trips, and some off-road on
forest and desert roads.  There are not a lot of SUVs with manual
transmissions, but I have road tested a few.  Problem is the "on-road" ride
is so bad, I can't wait to get out of them.  I don't think I am all that
picky about ride either.  I drive a Firebird Trans Am, which isn't exactly
the smoothest riding car around.

Toyota FJ Cruiser - nice truck, and road decently except it has a VERY
annoying constant side-to-side pitching motion going down the road, which
throws your head from side-to-side.

Nissan Xterra - great value, comfortable, no side-to-side pitching, but it
picks up EVERY bump in the road, even ones you can't see.  This truck never
smoothes out, even on the best roads.

Hummer H3 - great equipment for off-road, but has the same problem as the
Xterra, although not quite as bad.   Even on very smooth freeway, this truck
is jarring.  I drove both the regular and Adventure model.  Instead of
wanting to get out in five minutes as I did in the Xterra, I lasted 15
minutes.

BMW X3 - decent ride, although I'm a little worried about it getting torn up
off-road, even though I won't be on anything approaching the Rubicon trail.
Maybe someone here has some experience with these off-road they can tell me
about.

I use to have a full sized GMC Jimmy in the early '80s, and it rode fine.
It might have bounced a bit, but with the long suspension travel, it soaked
up bumps great.  I don't understand why this can't be done 20 years later.
It seems like we have gone backwards.  I also drove a company Ford tall
standing 4x4 pickup, and that thing could hit potholes, and you wouldn't fee
a thing (not an exaggeration).

Anyone have any ideas on what I should look at?  I'm out of ideas.

Michael
SnoMan - 27 Apr 2006 23:01 GMT
>I am looking for a 4x4 SUV with a manual transmission (most models only have
>an automatic now), and NOT one which is a converted front wheel drive, such
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>wanting to get out in five minutes as I did in the Xterra, I lasted 15
>minutes.

You are going to have a very hard time finding a american made SUV
with a stick on a lot or otherwise. You might consider a CC truck with
a short box  like a GM 2500 HD as you can get a 5 speed with a 6.0 or
a 6 sp with a Dmax or 8.1. I beleive Ford offers a 6 speed with V10
and a PS in like trucks too.
>BMW X3 - decent ride, although I'm a little worried about it getting torn up
>off-road, even though I won't be on anything approaching the Rubicon trail.
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>
>Michael

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CarlSaiyed@gmail.com - 15 May 2006 01:48 GMT
Check out a used Jeep Cherokee or a new Jeep Wrangler.

Carl
 
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