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TANKIE - 13 Jun 2004 19:23 GMT I see that the new Accord v6 is really fast like the Acura TL too. Is the TL pretty much an upgraded version of the Accord?
Being a Lexus ES300 owner, I am familiar with platform sharing as mine is Camry based. At first I thought the ES300 was pretty mych a v6 Camry with minor changes, but I came to realize that it's really a different car since most parts have been upgraded in the Lexus. Same story for thr TL?
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E. Meyer - 13 Jun 2004 20:41 GMT > I see that the new Accord v6 is really fast like the Acura TL too. Is the TL > pretty much an upgraded version of the Accord? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks Different engine, different skin, but otherwise the TL is pretty much a flushed out Accord.
kbstreet - 15 Jun 2004 03:49 GMT They come from the same platform, but other than that, they are completely different. I just traded in an '04 Accord V-6 for a TL w/ NAVI & there is no difference between the 2.
Bigger engine, auto stick trans, memory system, perforated leather interior, 17" wheels, Bluetooth technology, much better stereo, etc., etc.
There is no comparison!!!
> On 6/13/04 1:23 PM, in article > 20040613142304.19807.00001178@mb-m02.aol.com, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Different engine, different skin, but otherwise the TL is pretty much a > flushed out Accord. Jeremiah - 15 Jun 2004 10:55 GMT > They come from the same platform, but other than that, they are > completely different. I just traded in an '04 Accord V-6 for a TL w/ [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > There is no comparison!!! Huh? First you say, "there is no difference between the 2", and then you say, "there is no comparison"! Which is it, I'm confused! ;-)
Frank - 16 Jun 2004 03:06 GMT > > They come from the same platform, but other than that, they are > > completely different. I just traded in an '04 Accord V-6 for a TL w/ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Huh? First you say, "there is no difference between the 2", and then you > say, "there is no comparison"! Which is it, I'm confused! ;-) He ment no comparaison.
kbstreet - 16 Jun 2004 03:30 GMT I meant there is no comparison. The TL blows the Accord away.
>> They come from the same platform, but other than that, they are >> completely different. I just traded in an '04 Accord V-6 for a TL w/ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Huh? First you say, "there is no difference between the 2", and then you > say, "there is no comparison"! Which is it, I'm confused! ;-) Jeremiah - 17 Jun 2004 01:44 GMT > I meant there is no comparison. The TL blows the Accord away. I can truly appreciate the enthusiasm for the TL, but is there really that much difference between the 2 cars? There was an article in the local paper saying that the handling of the new TL leaves a lot to be desired. Seems with the higher HP engine this year, that they've numbed the steering to correct the torque steer problem. It leaves the car with a wandering, vague feel on the highway. Hard to keep it in a straight line down the road, many minor corrections to the steering wheel. Something to do with dampening the steering of the higher HP model in '04. Is there any truth to this, I haven't seen anything about it on this newsgroup. Just wondering............ ;-)
Sid Schweiger - 17 Jun 2004 02:14 GMT >Seems with the higher HP engine this year, that they've numbed the steering to correct the torque steer problem. It leaves the car with a wandering, vague feel on the highway. Hard to keep it in a straight line down the road, many minor corrections to the steering wheel. Something to do with dampening the steering of the higher HP model in '04. Is there any truth to this, I haven't seen anything about it on this newsgroup. Just wondering............ ;-)<
My '04 TL doesn't do any of that. It doesn't feel vague, or wander all over the road. In fact, it's one of the more precise steering systems I've ever used.
Jeremiah - 17 Jun 2004 11:49 GMT >> Seems with the higher HP engine this year, that they've numbed the >> steering to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > all over the road. In fact, it's one of the more precise steering > systems I've ever used. Well, maybe the guy doing the road test just doesn't like the new TL?? Probably a Lexus man......! :)
kbstreet - 18 Jun 2004 03:15 GMT I've had my TL for 3 weeks now & have over 2000 miles on it, almost all highway. It handles great, better than the Accord.
I've heard a lot about "torque steer" but I gues the ones complaining about that are the same idiots who drive 85 in heavy traffic switching from the left lane to the right lane in a 4 lane highway during rush hour???
> >Seems with the higher HP engine this year, that they've numbed the > >steering to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ever > used. E. Meyer - 18 Jun 2004 12:35 GMT Torque steer is the tendency of a front wheel drive car to pull to one side when you bury your accelerator foot in the front bumper. It only happens during heavy acceleration. The people complaining about it are the ones who think the pedal is a binary device (only two positions: all the way up and all the way down).
On 6/17/04 9:15 PM, in article fdidnViqusyozU_dRVn-jw@comcast.com,
> I've had my TL for 3 weeks now & have over 2000 miles on it, almost all > highway. It handles great, better than the Accord. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> ever >> used. Georgeny - 18 Jun 2004 13:47 GMT I have had my 04 TL for 3 months now trading in 02 Max GL. I can say nothing but good about the TL, far superior to the Maxima. No problem with handling, I agree with those that suggest anyone complaining of torque steer is doing so because they are simply a peddle to the metal driver. Control is excellent, interior can't be beat, plenty of power, great features.
I also looked at and drove Accord V 6 before deciding on going ahead with the TL, in fact wife may get one to replace her 02 Altima. Nice car but the TL is quite different in quiet ride, interior, features and such. I could live awith an Accord V6 if I had to, BUT, I don't have to so my preference is the TL. Hoping to be as impressed with the new RL in 06 when my next normal trade usually occurs.
I didn't get nav for a couple of reasons. Dealer only had 2 at the time both stick ( wife wouldn't be able to drive if needed plus sticks in quiet cars seem pointless to me ) but had numerous TL's without nav. Have no real need for nav, I know how to get to my bar from here, know how to get to casino from here :) . Were no deals on nav's at time because they were hard to get. Additional cost would not be of value to trade in 2 years, by then would bet many more cars will come with nav as standard feature. Too bad Acura didn't set car up for an easy factory style add on after the fact by providing wire harness and so forth should you change your mind.
George in NY - A very Happy 04 TL - Desert Mist/Ebony - owner
> > I meant there is no comparison. The TL blows the Accord away. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > haven't seen anything about it on this newsgroup. Just > wondering............ ;-) JXStern - 16 Jun 2004 04:49 GMT >Being a Lexus ES300 owner, I am familiar with platform sharing as mine is Camry >based. At first I thought the ES300 was pretty mych a v6 Camry with minor >changes, but I came to realize that it's really a different car since most >parts have been upgraded in the Lexus. Same story for thr TL? Call it different or the same, the relationship is similar.
J.
rll - 17 Jun 2004 16:15 GMT MotorWeek just announced the 2004 Acura TL as the best sport sedan of the year in their Driver's Choice Awards. Here's the link:
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/dc2004/sportsedan.shtml
- Russ in Santa Barbara
> I see that the new Accord v6 is really fast like the Acura TL too. Is the TL > pretty much an upgraded version of the Accord? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks Jeremiah - 17 Jun 2004 19:22 GMT > MotorWeek just announced the 2004 Acura TL as the best sport sedan of > the year in their Driver's Choice Awards. Here's the link: > > http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/dc2004/sportsedan.shtml > > - Russ in Santa Barbara See, there ya' go, nothing wrong with the '04 TL handling.........great car!
:) Kryptoknight - 22 Jun 2004 00:29 GMT would be a killer ar if they offered a "no-options TL-S" model. all the nice features of a TL, but comes with navi, rear wheel drive, and manual 6 trans.
ok, maybe a TL-S A-Spec option to tack on some more $$$. TL-S like this would be a killer car..
> MotorWeek just announced the 2004 Acura TL as the best sport sedan of the > year in their Driver's Choice Awards. Here's the link: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > Thanks tomk - 22 Jun 2004 00:49 GMT thats where the RL comes in
> would be a killer ar if they offered a "no-options TL-S" model. all the nice > features of a TL, but comes with navi, rear wheel drive, and manual 6 [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > > > Thanks
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