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Car Forum / Acura Cars / September 2004

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nguyenn - 03 Sep 2004 04:22 GMT
Hi,

   Just wonder if a new 2004 Acura 1.7 EL Premium can really run up to 800
KM/50 Litre of gas (full tank)?
Batong Buhay - 06 Sep 2004 01:51 GMT
800km/50litre = 37.8 mi/gal.  My 92 Integra 1.8 routinely gets 36 mi/gal
highway (avg 60 mph).  Your EL is about the size of an Integra and with a
smaller and probably more efficient engine.

> Hi,
>
>     Just wonder if a new 2004 Acura 1.7 EL Premium can really run up to 800
> KM/50 Litre of gas (full tank)?
Bruno - 06 Sep 2004 12:36 GMT
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:51:07 -0400, "Batong Buhay"
<batong.buhay@comcast.net> waived the right to be silent and
professed:

>800km/50litre = 37.8 mi/gal.  My 92 Integra 1.8 routinely gets 36 mi/gal
>highway (avg 60 mph).  Your EL is about the size of an Integra and with a
>smaller and probably more efficient engine.

I get 36 MPG on the highway with my 3.2TL.

--
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
E. Meyer - 06 Sep 2004 15:18 GMT
On 9/6/04 6:36 AM, in article 7tioj0l54b2bhqsdgic06gjot2bgm8sbao@4ax.com,

> On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:51:07 -0400, "Batong Buhay"
> <batong.buhay@comcast.net> waived the right to be silent and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

What year TL is that?  36 is pretty high for a TL unless you only drive 55
on the highway.
Bruno - 06 Sep 2004 22:31 GMT
>On 9/6/04 6:36 AM, in article 7tioj0l54b2bhqsdgic06gjot2bgm8sbao@4ax.com,
>
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>What year TL is that?  36 is pretty high for a TL unless you only drive 55
>on the highway.

It's a 2001. Doing 120-130 kph, which is about 75-80 mph. At 120 kph,
it's at 2000 rpm.

--
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
E. Meyer - 07 Sep 2004 02:21 GMT
On 9/6/04 4:31 PM, in article 7llpj0171mbq95h9072n2uavi9fddti82c@4ax.com,

>> On 9/6/04 6:36 AM, in article 7tioj0l54b2bhqsdgic06gjot2bgm8sbao@4ax.com,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> --
> Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

The best my '00 TL has never done was 33 MPG, and that was only once and
involved driving out an entire tank of gas non-stop from fillup to empty on
the Interstate with the cruise control set at 79, the AC off and the windows
& sunroof open.  Otherwise, on the highway it gets 28-30 and around town
20-23.  
Lee Florack - 07 Sep 2004 03:53 GMT
>The best my '00 TL has never done was 33 MPG, and that was only once and
>involved driving out an entire tank of gas non-stop from fillup to empty on
>the Interstate with the cruise control set at 79, the AC off and the windows
>& sunroof open.  Otherwise, on the highway it gets 28-30 and around town
>20-23.  

I agree with your best -- 33 at 78 w/o A/C.  Back and forth to
work, I average between 24 and 26.
Batong Buhay - 07 Sep 2004 18:47 GMT
I read somewhere that, on recent model (better streamlined) vehicles, at
high speeds you may get better mileage with AC-on/windows-closed that you
would with AC off/windows-open. It explains that open windows disturbs the
streamlining greatly increasing the drag to the point that it draws greater
engine power than the AC.  I haven't tried it myself - just wondering if you
folks have experienced this.

> >The best my '00 TL has never done was 33 MPG, and that was only once and
> >involved driving out an entire tank of gas non-stop from fillup to empty on
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> I agree with your best -- 33 at 78 w/o A/C.  Back and forth to
> work, I average between 24 and 26.
Lee Florack - 07 Sep 2004 23:00 GMT
>I read somewhere that, on recent model (better streamlined) vehicles, at
>high speeds you may get better mileage with AC-on/windows-closed that you
>would with AC off/windows-open. It explains that open windows disturbs the
>streamlining greatly increasing the drag to the point that it draws greater
>engine power than the AC.  I haven't tried it myself - just wondering if you
>folks have experienced this.

Yes.  That study is true.  If I drive over 50 mph, I close the
windows to keep the car as streamline as possible.  If it's too
hot, the A/C goes on -- it's still more fuel efficient than
opening the windows.
E. Meyer - 08 Sep 2004 05:05 GMT
I've read that too.  It doesn't seem to pan out in real life.  This car has
make the same trip with the windows closed and the AC on.  The result was 3
mpg worse mileage. Apparently, at least with this TL, the increased drag
from having the windows open requires less energy to overcome than the
increased load on the engine from the AC.

On 9/7/04 12:47 PM, in article t-ydnTNgRs-yaaDcRVn-rw@comcast.com, "Batong
Buhay" <batong.buhay@comcast.net> wrote:

> I read somewhere that, on recent model (better streamlined) vehicles, at
> high speeds you may get better mileage with AC-on/windows-closed that you
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> I agree with your best -- 33 at 78 w/o A/C.  Back and forth to
>> work, I average between 24 and 26.
Fluffy - 08 Sep 2004 22:38 GMT
I drive an 87 automatic 5-door and get between 24-26 mpg on an average
fill up.  When I was in high school, I got about 20 mpg climbing over
the really steep hill back and forth to school.  I've had about 32 mpg
drivin' interstate from one gas station to the next gas station.  I
think it really depends on the elevations in the terrain, your driving
style, and whether you have the AC on all the time.  For me, though,
AC is a non issue since when I got the car the pump didn't work, it
had no freon, and I'm sure the hoses have gone the way of the dodo
without use for  6 years.
Art M - 13 Sep 2004 22:26 GMT
>I drive an 87 automatic 5-door and get between 24-26 mpg on an average
> fill up.  When I was in high school, I got about 20 mpg climbing over
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> had no freon, and I'm sure the hoses have gone the way of the dodo
> without use for  6 years.

You could always try one of those $35 kits from K-mart that converts an old
system to the new one. It also recharges and has some stuff in it to stop
slow leaks. I used one on a '79 Toyota Cressida and it lasted a couple of
years before I junked it.

--Art
 
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