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Car Forum / Acura Cars / October 2004

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95 integra won't start...

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dynamic - 15 Sep 2004 03:11 GMT
Hi all,

I have a 95 RS 5 speed integra that just died on me while waiting in traffic
today after work.  It didn't give me any symptoms that it would do this.  I
was just waiting in traffic and gave it gas and it quit.  I tried to start
it up again, but it would start.  It sounded like it wanted to start
sounding like it was firing, but just not getting that final burst to start.
I tried pressing the gas pedal and starting, but this didn't work.  I just
filled up the tank last night from Chevron and it ran fine last night, today
on my way to work and even during my lunch break I went to the store and had
no problems.  I have never had this happen before and it never gives me any
problems starting up or driving, never sputters.  I had a tune up done on it
about 5 months ago.  Anyone have any ideas?  Thanks.
John  Ings - 15 Sep 2004 03:48 GMT
>I have a 95 RS 5 speed integra that just died on me while waiting in traffic
>today after work.  

http://www3.telus.net/public/johnings/faq.html#MainRelay
dynamic - 15 Sep 2004 03:57 GMT
From the link...

"My car sometimes stalls for no apparent reason, or won't start

especially in hot weather. This one turns up in the newsgroup regularly.
When you turn the key on, do you hear the whirr of the fuel pump back near
the tank? Does it run for a few seconds, then stop? If so you've got some
other trouble like a bad ignitor, but if you don't hear that pump run,
you've probably got main relay-itis! To learn more, click here"

I guess I have a bad ignitor then since I DO hear that pump run for a few
seconds while the key is turned (not all the way to start) then it stops.

Thanks!  I'll look into it.

> >I have a 95 RS 5 speed integra that just died on me while waiting in traffic
> >today after work.
>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/johnings/faq.html#MainRelay
E. Meyer - 15 Sep 2004 14:49 GMT
On 9/14/04 9:57 PM, in article icO1d.2241$fA1.1565@lakeread02, "dynamic"
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> From the link...
>
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>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/public/johnings/faq.html#MainRelay

Your symptoms sound like a bad ignition switch.  There was a recall on many
Hondas of this vintage for that problem.

Other symptoms of the ignition switch:

- The dash lights go dark at the same time it stalls,
- when you try to restart, the engine runs as long as you are holding the
key in "start", but it stops as soon as you release the key.

The switch is attached to the back of the ignition cylinder by two small
screws.  Take it off and pop it open.  If the contacts are corroded or
burnt, then you've found the problem.  The part is about $35 at the dealer.
Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay them.
dynamic - 15 Sep 2004 15:13 GMT
Thanks for the replies.

Is the ignition switch also called an ignition coil?  I was looking online
on how to get to this part and kept finding things on a coil.
> On 9/14/04 9:57 PM, in article icO1d.2241$fA1.1565@lakeread02, "dynamic"
> <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
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> burnt, then you've found the problem.  The part is about $35 at the dealer.
> Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay them.
E. Meyer - 15 Sep 2004 23:20 GMT
No.  Its called a switch.  The ignition coil feeds the spark plugs.

On 9/15/04 9:13 AM, in article t6Y1d.2244$fA1.431@lakeread02, "dynamic"
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the replies.
>
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> dealer.
>> Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay them.
unix-freak - 17 Sep 2004 03:35 GMT
If it were the ignition switch then the engine would never turn over. He
said that it would almost fire off.

Also don't asume it's the ignitor before checking the coil. If can scope the
ignitor's output (coil's primary) then you can determine if the ignitors
bad. Ohm out the ignition coil to determine if it's shot.

> On 9/14/04 9:57 PM, in article icO1d.2241$fA1.1565@lakeread02, "dynamic"
> <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
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> dealer. Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay
> them.

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E. Meyer - 17 Sep 2004 14:45 GMT
On 9/16/04 9:35 PM, in article 63s2d.67610$Np2.46006@bignews4.bellsouth.net,

> If it were the ignition switch then the engine would never turn over. He
> said that it would almost fire off.

That¹s not true.  When these ignition switches start to fail, it will start
but not run and stall without warning.  I have had the experience.  Very
common on '95s.  There was even a recall for it that covered many mid and
late 90's models.  

What happens is the "run" position contacts in the switch overheat and break
the connection.  Eventually they get burnt enough that it won't start at
all, but for a long time before that, it will just stall at random times. As
it gets closer to total failure, it will stop the instant you release the
key from start to run.  If you wait 5 minutes or so for it to cool down,
usually it will start and run again.  Sometimes you can find a position by
finessing the key between the start and run positions that will run.  Its
easy to check, just take it off and pop it open.  If the contacts are burned
or corroded, you have the problem.

> Also don't asume it's the ignitor before checking the coil. If can scope the
> ignitor's output (coil's primary) then you can determine if the ignitors
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>> dealer. Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay
>> them.
unix-freak - 18 Sep 2004 13:38 GMT
Interesting. I certainly stand corrected.

I spoke out of line assuming that is was like my `92 Integra whose ignition
switch is a single pole double throw. It switches 12V to a coil that get's
energized if the clutch pedal switch provides ground AND that 12V is
present.

> On 9/16/04 9:35 PM, in article
> 63s2d.67610$Np2.46006@bignews4.bellsouth.net, "unix-freak"
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>>> dealer. Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay
>>> them.

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Vlad - 19 Sep 2004 18:40 GMT
Could it be the Master Relay ?
My 92 was having problems to start . I replaced the Master Relay with
one I  rebuilt myself  and now is fine.

Vlad

>Interesting. I certainly stand corrected.
>
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>>>> dealer. Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay
>>>> them.
JP - 09 Oct 2004 18:57 GMT
I am currently experiencing the same problem with my 91 Integra. My
questions is about the coil and ignitor. If I have the dist cap off and
crank the car I see a spark jumping around inside the coil where the
distributor cap connects to feed the spark plug wires. If this is happening
could the ignitor still be bad? BTW the coil checked fine according to the
manuals specs. I have checked the fuel pump (sounds good), the main injector
relay (good), pulled a spark plug and can sse that fuel is getting to the
cylinder. The engine turns over like it wants to start but it just won't
fire.
> If it were the ignition switch then the engine would never turn over. He
> said that it would almost fire off.
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> > dealer. Check and see if the recall applied to your car before you pay
> > them.
 
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