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Best way to wash 2005 TL

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caliclown - 13 Nov 2004 23:05 GMT
Just bought this thing and I need to take care of it after driving a
piece of garbage for years.  What is the best way to wash this car and
what are the best products to use?

I live in an apartment complex and don't have access to a hose.  I do
park in a covered garage however.

Also, I already picked up a few minor scratches in the lower passenger
side bumper.  What is the best way to get rid of these?  I'm sure I'll
pick up many scratches along the way, but it sucks to get them after 1
week of ownership.

I'd appreciate any ideas.

Thanks.
RLL - 14 Nov 2004 05:32 GMT
Why in the world would you spend money on a luxury car when you (apparently)
don't even own a house?

That seems an incredibly inefficient method to acquire wealth.

When I was saving for a house, I kept cars for 10+ years and then bought
only when I had enough cash to pay for it in full.  And if I didn't have
enough money for a new car, I bought used.

That ~$40K would go a long way to buying real estate -- not in Santa
Barbara, where median house prices are $1M, but probably wherever you are.

- Russ in SB

> Just bought this thing and I need to take care of it after driving a
> piece of garbage for years.  What is the best way to wash this car and
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> Thanks.
John - 14 Nov 2004 06:13 GMT
You are coming across like you are calling him stupid for spending HIS
money. I bought a new '99 TL and still lived in an apartment. I traveled a
lot and wasn't home enough to take care of a house. I own a home now, but if
I were single, I'd live in an apartment. When you're only home 3-4 days a
month, a home is too much to worry about.

You're goals are most likely not the same as his. Ever think of that?

> Why in the world would you spend money on a luxury car when you (apparently)
> don't even own a house?
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> > Thanks.
caliclown - 14 Nov 2004 15:06 GMT
Hahahahaha, I just bought and sold a home and have investments in
plenty of other real estate and stocks you clown.  I hate cutting
grass, raking leaves, making repairs, and living deep in the suburbs.
Is that a good enough reason?

There's also the age old argument of renting vs buying.  Owning your
own home is a liability not an asset.  It's not always the best way to
acquire wealth.

Come down off your cross.  Winter's approaching and we could use the
wood.  Unbelievable.  Just help me wash my stinking car.

> Why in the world would you spend money on a luxury car when you (apparently)
> don't even own a house?
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> > Thanks.
rll - 14 Nov 2004 15:32 GMT
OK, you are correct, it is your money.

I never take my cars to the car wash.  My wife always takes hers in.  I wash
then by hand and use Zymol products for both washing and waxing.  If you
don't have access to a hose where you live, you can look for a hand-wash
business where you live.  We have one in Santa Barbara and a friend who
obsesses about his car said "they are the only ones who do a better job than
I do".  I haven't tried them yet, but am considering letting them detail my
NSX.

Another suggestion, I bought two types of 'spray-on' car wax you apply after
washing when you don't want to do a full wax.  They are quite different in
texture but both work well.  Here's the names:
   - RainX Fast Shine
   - Turtle Wax Express Shine

Another thought is to find a friend who has a passion for his car(s) and she
about borrowing his hose and water on weekends.  Perhaps after tennis or
some other shared activity.

I wonder if there is a idea here -- open a business with a series of bays
with hoses instead of the high-speed hoses that wash-it-yourself places.  I
would have used it before I had my own hose and water.

Good Luck,

- Russ in SB

> Hahahahaha, I just bought and sold a home and have investments in
> plenty of other real estate and stocks you clown.  I hate cutting
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>> > Thanks.
Bruno - 14 Nov 2004 15:41 GMT
>Hahahahaha
>SNIP

Hey. You could be an inner-city drug lord, and it still wouldn't
matter. You have great taste in cars.

The best way to wash your new car is with love and care.

Enjoy!

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I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.
Bryan Oakley - 14 Nov 2004 18:00 GMT
> Why in the world would you spend money on a luxury car when you (apparently)
> don't even own a house?
>
> That seems an incredibly inefficient method to acquire wealth.

Buying _any_ luxury car, house owner or not, is "an incredibly
inefficient method to aquire wealth."
Bruno - 14 Nov 2004 18:58 GMT
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:00:59 GMT, Bryan Oakley
<oakley@bardo.clearlight.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
said:

>Buying _any_ luxury car, house owner or not, is "an incredibly
>inefficient method to aquire wealth."

What good is wealth if you don't enjoy it?

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I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.
Dana - 22 Nov 2004 02:59 GMT
Geeeze , Give the guy a break - he wasn't looking for a lecture on
investments . My wife and I lived in an apartment for a couple years after
we got married and we enjoyed it very much. Some people have no intention of
EVER buying a house . Some people are transferred to different cities every
few years. Some apartment complexes are very nice places to live.
                                    -Dana

> Why in the world would you spend money on a luxury car when you
> (apparently)
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>> Thanks.
Michael Pardee - 14 Nov 2004 21:39 GMT
Beware of washes with brushes (they scratch the finish - visible the very
first time) or those rotating towels. One of the guys I work with took his
company truck through one of those and it ripped the company radio antenna
completely out of the roof. It bent the metal and everything - maybe 300-400
lbs of pull needed to do that. My brother lost a side view mirror to one
once. Touchless car washes are the safest.

Mike

> Just bought this thing and I need to take care of it after driving a
> piece of garbage for years.  What is the best way to wash this car and
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>
> Thanks.
Bruno - 14 Nov 2004 21:59 GMT
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:39:39 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
said:

>Beware of washes with brushes (they scratch the finish - visible the very
>first time) or those rotating towels. One of the guys I work with took his
>company truck through one of those and it ripped the company radio antenna
>completely out of the roof. It bent the metal and everything - maybe 300-400
>lbs of pull needed to do that. My brother lost a side view mirror to one
>once. Touchless car washes are the safest.

I took a black car through a touchless car wash once. Blew $8, then
washed the car by hand when I got home.

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I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.
Michael Pardee - 14 Nov 2004 22:19 GMT
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:39:39 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
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> I took a black car through a touchless car wash once. Blew $8, then
> washed the car by hand when I got home.

But at least it was all there :-)

Mike
Bruno - 14 Nov 2004 22:37 GMT
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:19:15 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
said:

>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:39:39 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
>> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
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>Mike

LOL!

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I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.
Carl S. Moore - 15 Nov 2004 02:17 GMT
Touchless carwashes weren't safe for me a few
years back.  Took my former Prelude through touchless.
The blower came crashing down on my trunk and
damaged it and had to be undented and repainted!

Carl

> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:39:39 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
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> I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.
Alphageek - 15 Nov 2004 03:43 GMT
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:39:39 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> managed to remove the duct tape and
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> --
> I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.

I like the brushless 'hand wash' places, but the biggest  problem I
encounter is how
long the car sits in the sun until the guy comes over to dry it and 'detail'
it. The longer the car sits the more likely it is to spot, and for any dirt
that didn't come off to dry out and harden again. Dark cars are most
susceptible, but that doesn't mean my white car is immune.
Martin van Nostrand - 14 Nov 2004 21:50 GMT
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Frank - 14 Nov 2004 22:36 GMT
> Just bought this thing and I need to take care of it after
> driving a
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>
> I'd appreciate any ideas.

Congratulation on your new car. Enjoy it.

As for polishing, I have discovered Zaino. Do a Google search on
Zaino. It is not a wax, but a polish. I live in Canada, where the
winters are horrible. I used not to care so much about the
resulting "looks" from my car care product, but durability for me
was key. I did not feel I should wash and wax my car every month
during the winter. So I looked and looked for one that was
durable. I found Zaino and recomment it not only for durability,
but for looks as well.

It is applied using a 3-step process. First you wash your car
with dishwasher soap (Dawn) to take all the old wax out. Then you
put a coat of Z1 and then a coat of Z2 (or Z5 if you have a older
car, which you don't of if you have scratches). You can put as
many coats of Z2 (or Z5) as you want: the more the deeper the
colour. You are now set for winter. You can washed yopur car
anywhere and in-between wash, use the Z6 product. I have found
that I use the cheapest car wash setting (the one that does not
put wax on the car) and then I use Z6 on it.

I found that for my deep blue colour car, the following Zaino
combination works amazingly well: Z1, Z2, Z5, Z5, Z2 and Z6
in-between.

Do a search on the web for "studies" comparing Zaino and other
products. A lot of people have done some comparaison, using some
"simili scientific" experimental design. These are not totally
scientific, but they beat what the other wax companies say about
theres (with no proof).

Here is one of them:
http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

To be fair, here is another giving another view (albeit, pretty
positive except for Zaino's ability to hide scratches):

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/gheumann/zaino_test/

It is by far the best product I have found, for durability and
deepness of colour. I recommend it highly.

PS: I do not work for Zaino. I just love their products.
Texasbiggs - 15 Nov 2004 00:06 GMT
I AGREE........ Zaino is the way to go.   Acura and Honda paint is thin so
look for protection.

texasbiggs
94 legend
04 MDX
04 TL
Want 05 RL

>> Just bought this thing and I need to take care of it after driving a
>> piece of garbage for years.  What is the best way to wash this car and
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> PS: I do not work for Zaino. I just love their products.
Randy S - 15 Nov 2004 08:58 GMT
I too, use Zaino.   Also, if you haven't found this wealth of info yet, go
here:

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=61

Randy
kbstreet - 16 Nov 2004 01:31 GMT
Also try www.acura-tl.com.  There is a wealth of information on this site.
Not just about washing it though.  You will find posts w/ lists of products
to buy and methods to wash & take care of your care.

I started out babying my care & washing it by hand.  But then the 4 - 6
hours every week became too much when you have kids & want to have a life.
Also, I bought the car to drive it & enjoy it.  Not to have it sit in the
garage looking brand spanking new all the time.

Just my 2 cents.

> Just bought this thing and I need to take care of it after driving a
> piece of garbage for years.  What is the best way to wash this car and
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>
> Thanks.
 
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