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Car Forum / Acura Cars / January 2005

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broken spark plug - ceramic around electrode

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Art M - 28 Jan 2005 21:49 GMT
My car wouldn't start the other day. Today I pulled the plugs and found that
one of them had the ceramic broken off. The part that broke off is the
portion in the cylinder around the electrode. I assume this would cause the
plug to be unable to spark. I can't see any fragments in the cylinder, but I
can only see a small portion of the piston. I had turned the engine over
many times trying to start it. Any hope for it without removing the head. I
was thinking I could hook a tube up to vacuum cleaner.

Background info:
'91 acura integra 180k miles
I've been aware that it probably has a blown head gasket. I had slowly been
loosing radiator fluid without any apparent leaks. About a month ago the car
started running worse (choking a bit). Recently, I could see a bit of oil in
the radiator. I'm guessing this was the cylinder that had radiator fluid
leaking in. The spark plugs have probably been in longer than they should
have been.

Another question: My Haynes manual says the plugs should be replaced every
30k miles with conventional plugs one time and platinum the next. What's the
rationale there?
Ramapo - 29 Jan 2005 14:28 GMT
One other comment.  Oil in the cooling fluid causes a dramatic
reduction in the ability of the fluid to transfer thermal
loads...After you get the head problem resolved, it is imperative
that you have the cooling system completely flushed to remove
any trace of the oil contamination.  Make sure the shop that does
it knows there was oil contamination in the fluid.

If you don't do this, you have a greatly increased chance of
overheating.

Paul
Art M - 30 Jan 2005 22:26 GMT
> One other comment.  Oil in the cooling fluid causes a dramatic
> reduction in the ability of the fluid to transfer thermal
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> Paul

Anything special involved in the flushing. I'd like to do it myself.

--Art
Ramapo - 31 Jan 2005 15:28 GMT
>> One other comment.  Oil in the cooling fluid causes a dramatic
>> reduction in the ability of the fluid to transfer thermal
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>--Art

I would check with a radiator shop to see what they recommend.  I
assume you would put an additive in that ties up the oil and carries
it out in the flush operation.  Then refill with the recommended ratio
of antifreeze and water.

Since no two makes and models of cars use exactly the same types of
materials in the cooling systems, I hesitate to recommend an exact
procedure.

I'm glad to see that you got the car running smoothly again.  Modern
spark plugs rarely crack their insulators unless they are grossly
overheated or were damaged being put in the engine (dropped or hit or
stressed by the socket).  It is also possible that it was defective
from the factory and the defect caused it to crack after repeated
heat/cool cycles.  You rarely know.  With todays very high tension
ignitions, those insulators work very, very hard.  Early aviation
pioneers would have been deeply envious of these plugs, which we take
completely for granted!  Their plugs rarely lasted more than 25-50
hours of running and some less than 10 hours.....

Paul

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