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1996 Acura 3.5RL , how to tell if transmission stil goes into "overdrive".

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Gautam Thaker - 27 Jun 2005 21:12 GMT
Hi:

I have a 1996 Acrua 3.5 RL. I has 98,000 miles on it. THe car is in
pretty good mechanical shape overall except I do not know if its
automatic transmission goes into "overdrive" any more. I can tell
clearly when transmission shifts from 1->2, and from 2->3, and from
3->4, but after that it seems there should be a further "overdrive"
shift down. I note only a very slight shift down. On level highway going
at a steady speed the RPMs show 2500 RPM at steady 75 MPH. SHould it not
be lower? I can't recall from earlier years how this was,  have owned
this car since 1998.

George
TeGGeR® - 27 Jun 2005 21:40 GMT
Gautam Thaker <ghthaker@yahoo.com> wrote in news:r_qdncx_dbvHwF3fRVn-
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> Hi:
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> be lower? I can't recall from earlier years how this was,  have owned
> this car since 1998.

Isn't there an "OD off" button?

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Gautam Thaker - 28 Jun 2005 02:51 GMT
> Gautam Thaker <ghthaker@yahoo.com> wrote in news:r_qdncx_dbvHwF3fRVn-
> hw@comcast.com:
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> Isn't there an "OD off" button?

No, as far as I can tell (and I have been driving this car for 8 years),
there is no "OD off" button.

George
TeGGeR® - 28 Jun 2005 03:18 GMT
>> Isn't there an "OD off" button?
>
> No, as far as I can tell (and I have been driving this car for 8
> years), there is no "OD off" button.

Then 2,500rpm at 75mph IS overdrive. My Integra's 5-speed manual does
4,000rpm at 85mph.

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Nightdude - 27 Jun 2005 22:07 GMT
2500rpm for 3.5L @ 75mph should be right.

> Hi:
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> George
Gautam Thaker - 28 Jun 2005 02:55 GMT
> 2500rpm for 3.5L @ 75mph should be right.

I was in a honda odyssey minivan yesterday. It has  the same size
engine, a 3.5litre V6. It 75 MPH it is doing a low 2100 RPM or so,
perhaps even 2000. ANd, at top end of accelerating it clearly does a
nice slowing down of engine as it seem to go into its last year or the
overdrive. I know, the minivan and 3.5RL are diff cars but with same
size engines i expected 3.5RL to have if anything lower RPMs for the
same miles/hour when going steady on a flat road.

If someone otu there has a 3.5RL it would be nice if they can see what
is their RPM when cruising on flat road at 75 MPH.

thanks for comments people.

George

>>Hi:
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>>George
Nightdude - 29 Jun 2005 00:38 GMT
A minivan has a different final drive than a sport luxury sedan. That would
account in the RPM difference.

>> 2500rpm for 3.5L @ 75mph should be right.
>
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>>>George
ESmith - 28 Jun 2005 00:20 GMT
The RL has a 4 speed transmission

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> Hi:
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> George
Gautam Thaker - 28 Jun 2005 02:50 GMT
> The RL has a 4 speed transmission

So, if I can "see" (on tach) the shifts and feel them, (1->2, 2->3,
3->4), is that all it should do? Sounds like you are telling me that
that should be about it.

Either way, thanks for the comment.

George
Filipp Stepanov - 28 Jun 2005 04:30 GMT
What comes after the 3-4 shift, and feels like another gear, is not really a
gear shift, but the torque converter locking up. The torque converter in an
automatic transmission is the equivalent of a clutch in a manual
transmission. In 1st and 2nd gears it always slips, which is why you can
hold you brake pedal at a traffic light while the car is in gear. In 3rd and
4th gears on most 4-speed automatics, the torque converter will lock up
while cruising to save fuel and reduce heat. Locking up of the torque
converter feels like a gear shift, only the change in RPM is very small -
200-300 rpm at most. When the transmission is cold, the torque converter
won't lock up, this is done to help the tranny warm up faster and to avoid
stress to parts that aren't warmed up yet. If you don't feel the lock-up,
where you previouly used to, this may indicate a problem with the temp
sensor in the transmission, or one of the solenoids. Having said that, 2500
rmp at 75 mph seems about right, althoug I don't have an RL and can't tell
for sure.

> > The RL has a 4 speed transmission
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> George

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