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Car Forum / Acura Cars / July 2005TL Transmission issue
I'm going to buy a Used TL, probably 01-03. I heard there is a transmission issue with these years and am wondering what to ask or look/feel for when I'm checking the car out. At what mileage does the problem usually creep up? Does Acura cover the problem if it occurs before a certain mileage? If the car has run OK so far does that mean it's one of the lucky ones? Thanks for your help. On 7/1/05 1:37 AM, in article U5KdnfJyfsYyeVnfRVn-sQ@adelphia.com, "Yer Daddy" <areofilm@adelphiaS.nets> wrote: > I'm going to buy a Used TL, probably 01-03. I heard there is a transmission > issue with these years and am wondering what to ask or look/feel for when > I'm checking the car out. At what mileage does the problem usually creep > up? Does Acura cover the problem if it occurs before a certain mileage? If > the car has run OK so far does that mean it's one of the lucky ones? Thanks > for your help. Acura has extended the warranty on the transmissions on these cars to 100,000 miles or 7 years. If it fails they will replace the transmission. The failure is fairly catastrophic, so if you can drive the car and it shifts normally, there is probably nothing wrong with it. There was also a recall to add an oil spray to cool one of the gears. You can tell if this was done by looking down at the transaxle at the driver's side strut tower just behind the throttle cables. If you see a metal tube going into the top of the transaxle through a large bolt, it has been done. If you just see a large bolt that is marked "ATF", then the recall has not been done. Was this bolt hole used to fill the AT? How do you put new ATF in? Through the filler tube? > Acura has extended the warranty on the transmissions on these cars to > 100,000 miles or 7 years. If it fails they will replace the transmission. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > If you just see a large bolt that is marked "ATF", then the recall has not > been done. Yes, it was the fill bolt. It it still is. The oil cooler tube is held in place by one bolt (follow the flange from the tube itself toward the front of the car and you will see the bolt - it is painted blue on mine). Remove the bolt and the tube will lift out of the hole in the original fill bolt. There is no need to remove the big bolt. Fill it through the hole from the oils spray tube. Its actually less involved than it was originally because now you don't have to replace the crush washer on the fill bolt (since you don't take it off). You could fill it through the dip stick, but its about the size of a soda straw. The hole at the oil spray is about thumb size, much easier to use. On 7/5/05 4:03 PM, in article HACye.35148$IL3.12388@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com, > Was this bolt hole used to fill the AT? How do you put new ATF in? Through > the filler tube? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> If you just see a large bolt that is marked "ATF", then the recall has not >> been done. I have an '00 TL with 92K miles. I haven't had this done because it is nearly four hundred miles (round trip) to the nearest Acura dealer. I have been running Mobile One ATF in my tranny since about 48K. My transmission still works and shifts fine. So my question is, do I really need the oil jet kit when I use the high temp synthetic trans oil? What does it (the kit) do other than provide protection at high temps. Doesn't the Mobile One do this? On 7/18/05 2:29 PM, in article LOGdna4GD9Zin0HfRVn-jQ@bright.net, "James" <anonymous@nowhere.no> wrote: > I have an '00 TL with 92K miles. I haven't had this done because it is > nearly four hundred miles (round trip) to the nearest Acura dealer. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > temp synthetic trans oil? What does it (the kit) do other than provide > protection at high temps. Doesn't the Mobile One do this? Its your car. How lucky do you feel? I think you can take it to a (closer) Honda dealer if the Acura dealer is so far away. Several Honda models also have the recall for that kit. > Its your car. How lucky do you feel? I think you can take it to a (closer) > Honda dealer if the Acura dealer is so far away. Several Honda models also > have the recall for that kit. My somewhat local Honda dealer (80 miles away) gave me every excuse he could think of to get me to go to the Acura dealer. So I called Acura, and they said that they would reimburse me for the cost of the job if I had the Honda dealer do it...however, when I asked how long it would take to reimburse me, they said "4 to 6 weeks." I then asked Acura for a voucher, and they said that they "don't do that." i.e., they would rather make it harder for me instead the dealer. Nice eh... "How lucky do I feel..." So are you implying that my 100,000 mile transmission warranty is no good if I don't have the oil jet kit installed? Otherwise, IMO with only 8K miles left on my TL until the warranty expires, it's not worth all the fuss. James Would you still feel the same if at 99,000 the transmission failed and you didn't have the oil jet kit installed? That would certainly give them a reason for not covering it under warrantee. They do a photo inspection of second gear and install the kit if there is no damage. If there is damage the transmission is replaced. I just had my 2001CLS transmission replaced at 32,000. That was after having the oil and filter changed by the dealer at 26,000. I hated paying them $60 to do the job but figured they couldn't wiggle out of the warrantee if they did the maintenance. The transmission recall happened a few months later. I had at most, only a few thousand more miles when I brought it in for the inspection. They found no damage and installed the kit. A few thousand more miles, at 32,000, I had minor transmission problems. They replaced the under warrantee. My local Acura service charges $98.75 per hour. And charged 0.6 hours for diagnostics and 5.5 hours to change the transmission. That would be $602.38 for labor without any parts. I wonder what they get for the rebuilt tranny? Any way If I were you I would have the inspection and kit installation or transmission replacement done very soon. It would be even worse if you had a problem at 101,000 miles. Good luck! >> Its your car. How lucky do you feel? I think you can take it to a (closer) >> Honda dealer if the Acura dealer is so far away. Several Honda models also [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >James |
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