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ADS - 15 Jul 2005 17:31 GMT

I started my 2000 TL this morning and the TCS & ABS dash lights stayed on.
It's only got 66k on it. I thought possibly that it was a fuse issue since
they were both on, but all the fuses are OK.

Any ideas? Will I have to mortgage the house to fix?

Thanks in advance

Tony

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E Meyer - 16 Jul 2005 19:57 GMT

On 7/15/05 11:31 AM, in article --6dnacHhpN_eUrfRVn-rg@rogers.com, "ADS"
<tromespam@canada.com> wrote:

> I started my 2000 TL this morning and the TCS & ABS dash lights stayed on.
> It's only got 66k on it. I thought possibly that it was a fuse issue since
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>
> Tony

The TCS on the 2000 uses the ABS to control wheel spin. The service manual
suggests that when both lights come on, diagnose the ABS problem first. So
the bottom line is you have a fault in the anti-lock braking system. There
will be one or more problem codes stored in it.

It is possible to make it blink out the codes by shorting the SCS connector
(which is buried in the main OBD-II connector under the ash try), but the
manual doesn't tell how to do it without using a Honda PGM tester. If the
dealer doesn't charge too much to diagnose it (I would ask first before
turning them loose on it), taking it to them might be the easiest way.

As long as both lights are on, neither the ABS nor the TCS is working, but
you should still have normal braking. If they want too much to fix it, you
can probably safely ignore it, since both of these things are features, not
necessities.

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ADS - 17 Jul 2005 15:13 GMT

Thanks for the input and your opinion is right on. If it costs too much to
fix, it won't be. For some reason, in my past experience, parts prices for
Acuras in Canada are TWICE what they charge in the States. Free trade? Go
figure.

Thanks again for the help..

Tony

> On 7/15/05 11:31 AM, in article --6dnacHhpN_eUrfRVn-rg@rogers.com, "ADS"
> <tromespam@canada.com> wrote:
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> not
> necessities.

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Nightdude - 17 Jul 2005 19:56 GMT

But labour is more in the US than here. Dealer in Minneapolis wanted
95$US/hour. Here it's 90-110$ per hour now in CAN$. So it's not exactly
twice as much.

> Thanks for the input and your opinion is right on. If it costs too much
> to fix, it won't be. For some reason, in my past experience, parts prices
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>> not
>> necessities.

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ADS - 18 Jul 2005 03:29 GMT

Let me correct that.. The labor is comparable and I'm happy with the
service at my dealer, but the parts are a different thing. I recently
needed a thermostat and because I bitched and complained at the price the
gave it to me for dealer cost of $64.93 Cdn plus taxes (15%), U.S. List
price is $31.60. I found rotors & pads to be similar.

Tony

> But labour is more in the US than here. Dealer in Minneapolis wanted
> 95$US/hour. Here it's 90-110$ per hour now in CAN$. So it's not exactly
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>>> not
>>> necessities.

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