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Frank - 15 Jan 2006 17:00 GMT Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!
I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work, nothing too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full continuous operation as long it can spray a few things in, say, 15 to 20 seconds burst, like: deck stain (light oil base), oil-based rust proofing (like light oil Rust Check sold at Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested in using it for more powerful air tools.
I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would this do the job?
Thanks again,
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id= 1408474396669738&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1137343847916&PRO DUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443248031&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
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Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max a.. 120V a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"), inflator gun, 2 inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included a.. Model No. 410788
Professor - 15 Jan 2006 17:17 GMT My opinion is that this unit is too small for your needs...
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=AB Paul =BB - 15 Jan 2006 17:24 GMT > Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts! > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included > a.. Model No. 410788 CFM is not listed. Spray 10 seconds, wait 1 minute, spray 10 seconds, etc. I can tell you that it will be LOUD. You probably won't want to use it in the garage. My personal compressor is 2 cylinder, 3 hp, 30 gallon tank. It will NOT keep up with my spray painter or air tools if I use it continuously.
w9cw@yahoo.com - 15 Jan 2006 18:27 GMT I have a 1.5HP 120PSI 3 Gal. tank DeVilbiss for use in my garage, and it works fine. I only use it for tires and limited impact tool use. When the compressor is running, it is loud, but it beats the heck out of the alternative. In removing frozen bolts from brake calipers and hubs, it's earn its keep many times. If you plan on extensive use of any air tools or painting, I would strongly suggest a larger tank, as per Paul's post above.
Frank - 15 Jan 2006 21:02 GMT >I have a 1.5HP 120PSI 3 Gal. tank DeVilbiss for use in my >garage, and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > tank, as > per Paul's post above. Thanks for the suggestion. I will pass then. Cheers!
Stormin Mormon - 17 Jan 2006 12:40 GMT Dear Frank, I think your original post sounded like occasional use.
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>I have a 1.5HP 120PSI 3 Gal. tank DeVilbiss for use in my >garage, and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > tank, as > per Paul's post above. Thanks for the suggestion. I will pass then. Cheers!
Michael Pardee - 15 Jan 2006 21:28 GMT > Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts! > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > coupler (1/4") also included > a.. Model No. 410788 My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires. As mentioned, almost any compressor in the price range of ordinary people like us is ungodly loud. I have a Craftsman 3hp max / 1.5 hp running, 15 gallon 8 cfm compressor in the garage. It requires hearing protection when it is running and the neighbors have asked what all the noise is, even though I keep the door closed while using it. All the noise comes from the unmuffled air intake. I've looked for ways to enclose the intake so I can muffle it, but I've seen nothing obvious yet.
Mike
Dean Dark - 15 Jan 2006 23:08 GMT >> Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts! >> >> I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work, nothing >> too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full continuous >> operation as long it can ...
>My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires. >As mentioned, almost any compressor in the price range of ordinary people >like us is ungodly loud. I concur, though even inflating tires can be (haha) tiresome with a small unit. Like many people, I bought a small compressor to start with but rapidly found that I'd made a mistake.
I think my first one may have given acceptable performance with an airbrush, or blowing up beach-balls and possibly bicycle tires.
I'm fortunate to live where there are no neighbo(u)rs within close proximity. However, there are things you can do to muffle and contain the noise, which is, I think, essentially the same as induction roar on a combustion engine.
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RSCamaro - 15 Jan 2006 23:20 GMT <snip>
>My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires. >As mentioned, almost any compressor in the price range of ordinary people [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Mike Have you thought about enclosing the whole unit in a wood framed box that you insulate with inexpensive styrene or poly urethane foam panels?
...Ron -- 68'RS Camaro 88'Formula 00'GT Mustang
Mike Marlow - 15 Jan 2006 23:39 GMT > <snip> > >My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > that you insulate with inexpensive styrene or poly urethane foam > panels? Be careful of overheating your compressor this way.
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Michael Pardee - 16 Jan 2006 02:57 GMT >> <snip> >> >My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Be careful of overheating your compressor this way. That was a big concern - the motor generates a lot of heat.
I tore the unit down enough to get a look at the compressor, and it turns out the intake is essentially the same space as the underside of the piston. I didn't see any practical way to create an intake muffler, so I reassembled everything. I am thinking of placing the compressor in the crawl space and the tank in the garage, so the noise can be exiled while the maintenance of the tank can be done in the garage, but I fear the noise will be spread into the house if I'm not careful.
Mike
Grumpy AuContraire - 16 Jan 2006 12:12 GMT > >> <snip> > >> >My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Mike A small auto muffler can be modified for air compressor usage. Did that back east...
JT
Michael Pardee - 16 Jan 2006 14:57 GMT > A small auto muffler can be modified for air compressor usage. Did that > back east... > > JT Sounds like just the thing! How did you fit it to the compressor?
Mike
Grumpy AuContraire - 17 Jan 2006 01:21 GMT > > A small auto muffler can be modified for air compressor usage. Did that > > back east... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mike Adapters from your friendly FLAPS...
JT
news - 15 Jan 2006 23:19 GMT > Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts! > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included > a.. Model No. 410788 I have the standup version of this: http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84 5524443284896&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517562&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=253 4374303517563&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396669738&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408 474396669738&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1137366797070
The belt drive are a lot quieter - I've painted my race car at midnight and didn't wake up the house (I have an attached garage.)
I know it's a little (lot more) more than the one you were looking at, but that's what I have. (My wonderful wife got it for me for xmas about 6 years ago.)
The small tank = compressor always running. That type of compressor = really loud.
When in doubt, check the cfm of your sprayer and the cfm of the compressor. Unless you like painting in 30 second bursts, you need more compressor cfm than tool cfm (or close) or a BIG tank. BUt even a big tank only means you have to stop less often so it can pump up, whereas a powerful enough motor can keep the tank full.
Consider renting one from somewhere like Home Depot?
Ray
Ray
Ted Mittelstaedt - 16 Jan 2006 10:13 GMT > Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested > in using it for more powerful air tools. Sprayers take a lot of flow. If your wanting to spray stuff like that, just buy an airless paint sprayer.
Heavy duty impact tools, by contrast, require high pressures and you need a dual-stage compressor for that. For example I have a 1 inch chuck impact tool. I rarely use it (very rarely) but it is strong enough to break axle nuts free without having to jump up and down on a cheater wondering if your going to snap your breaker bar. However, 120psi is about the -minimum- it requires to operate.
What the small compressors are sold for is running stuff like nail guns, so you can use a nail gun to nail your new deck together. But that's about all they are useful for.
Ted
> I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would > this do the job? > > Thanks again, http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id= 1408474396669738&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1137343847916&PRO DUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443248031&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
> If this link does not work, here are the details: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included > a.. Model No. 410788 Michael Pardee - 16 Jan 2006 15:10 GMT >> Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts! >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Ted Consumer quality compressors now have rating numbers, with a chart to show what tools require. The 8 cfm 140 psi single stage noisemaker I have is rated "4" and works the 1/2 inch impact tool I'm using, for the casual pace I keep at home. It would be completely inadequate in a busy shop. It struggles to keep up with a conventional spray gun and I haven't had the nerve to try it with an HVLP sprayer.
To get rated impact out of any tool requires delivering rated pressure at the tool, and 1/2 inch hose has a bunch of drop for air gobblers like that. To get a crank bolt loose with the 500 ft-lb impact I had to put the regulator right at the tool and run the hose at 120-140 psi. That did the job, though. Axle nuts don't resist even with the regulator at the tank. I don't know how I got along without it.
Mike
thehick - 16 Jan 2006 21:17 GMT I have this compressor. It was good for blowing passageways in carbs or cleaning off furnace filters. not much else. i got it when it was half price so it's ok for that price. it's not much good for blowing up air matresses as it doesn't have enough cfm. and lots of noise when it's in the house. i wouldn't get it unless it's all you can afford. ...thehick
Frank - 17 Jan 2006 00:24 GMT >I have this compressor. It was good for blowing passageways > in carbs or cleaning off furnace filters. not much else. i [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > i wouldn't get it unless it's all you can afford. > ...thehick Thanks to all who replied. I think I will pass. The idea of renting it at Home Depot or someone else was brilliant. Might cost more over the long run, but I do not need to store it anywhere...
Cheers all!
Lawrence Glickman - 17 Jan 2006 00:46 GMT >>I have this compressor. It was good for blowing passageways >> in carbs or cleaning off furnace filters. not much else. i [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Cheers all! I have a 3 horsepower twin cylinder belt driven with a 20 gallon tank. It is located deep in my basement, underground, and I just run air hose to my working spot ( I made a feed-thru to get the hose outside ).
This is the _minimum_ I would recommend to anyone. I put it in the basement to minimize noise, but mostly to conserve space and protect it from the elements. It is on its' own electrical circuit ( I had an electrician make a circuit just for this compressor ).
I've use all air tools with this, and an HVLP spray gun, and it works fine. It didn't cost more than $300 IIRC, so was a good investment. You could spend that much on 1 electric tool.
If I had it to do over again, most likely I would go for either more HP ( 5 ) or a larger tank, or both.
Lg
Stormin Mormon - 17 Jan 2006 12:40 GMT Link didn't go anywhere. OK, lets try search:
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Text description below sounds like a home duty compressor for occasional use. Should work.
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Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!
I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work, nothing too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full continuous operation as long it can spray a few things in, say, 15 to 20 seconds burst, like: deck stain (light oil base), oil-based rust proofing (like light oil Rust Check sold at Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested in using it for more powerful air tools.
I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would this do the job?
Thanks again,
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id= 1408474396669738&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1137343847916&PRO DUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443248031&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
If this link does not work, here are the details:
Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max a.. 120V a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"), inflator gun, 2 inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included a.. Model No. 410788
Repairman - 18 Jan 2006 22:35 GMT Light home use, direct drive noise maker is fine. It also will start right up in the coldest conditions. Belt drive for heavy use and in a heated location. Belt drives hard starting or will not start in freezing conditions. Have both and the 5 hp direct drive will start in -20F weather every time unlike the belt drive that struggles at 25F .
Hairy - 19 Jan 2006 04:49 GMT > Light home use, direct drive noise maker is fine. It also will start right > up in the coldest conditions. > Belt drive for heavy use and in a heated location. Belt drives hard starting > or will not start in freezing conditions. > Have both and the 5 hp direct drive will start in -20F weather every time > unlike the belt drive that struggles at 25F . I've had the opposite experience. My oilless Craftsman 5 hp does a good job except when the temps get below -10F or so, then it doesn't want to start, sometimes. I never had that problem with the 5 hp belt drive that it replaced. I did change the 10w30 oil in the compressor every fall, though. With the oilless, earplugs are a necessity, IMO.
Dave
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