270 HP vs. 258 HP?

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Jim Tiberio - 16 Feb 2006 19:38 GMT

Hi all, I picked up my '06 TL last week and have a question that wasn't
answered to my satisfaction by the sales guy. Why was 2005 TL rated at
270HP while the '06 is rated at 258HP? The dealer says they implemented a
new policy that all car companies will have to adhere to at some point when
disclosing HP, he didn't explaim the policy. Are they rating it from a
point other than the crank? Did they ever measure from the crank. I assume
more than 12 HP would be lost in the drive train.

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Ghislain - 16 Feb 2006 21:22 GMT

258 HP is certified to SAE J1349.

> Hi all, I picked up my '06 TL last week and have a question that wasn't
> answered to my satisfaction by the sales guy. Why was 2005 TL rated at
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> assume
> more than 12 HP would be lost in the drive train.

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Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTED EMAIL - 17 Feb 2006 08:49 GMT

> Hi all, I picked up my '06 TL last week and have a question that wasn't
> answered to my satisfaction by the sales guy. Why was 2005 TL rated at
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> point other than the crank? Did they ever measure from the crank. I assume
> more than 12 HP would be lost in the drive train.

The HP of the car has not changed. Only the way they are allowed to
measure it. ie. using oil that would void the warranty and other
cheating methods to boost the number are no longer allowed. The 2005
would likely be given the same rating on the new system.

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Sam - 18 Feb 2006 00:16 GMT

Good explanation.

However, most Honda models got HP boost from the new measuring system, I
doubt TL was cheating.

> The HP of the car has not changed. Only the way they are allowed to
> measure it. ie. using oil that would void the warranty and other cheating
> methods to boost the number are no longer allowed. The 2005 would likely
> be given the same rating on the new system.

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Gordon McGrew - 18 Feb 2006 20:04 GMT

>Good explanation.
>
>However, most Honda models got HP boost from the new measuring system, I
>doubt TL was cheating.

Is that true? I heard that the new Civic Si would have been over 200
with the old method, now it is 197(?)

>> The HP of the car has not changed. Only the way they are allowed to
>> measure it. ie. using oil that would void the warranty and other cheating
>> methods to boost the number are no longer allowed. The 2005 would likely
>> be given the same rating on the new system.

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