My 2004 TL is nearing the need for replacement tires, even though Acura
replaced the original Turanzas at about 5000 miles; the car has about 19,000
miles currently. Those Bridgestone Turanzas are just terrible tires.
I would be grateful for any suggestions on replacement tires. All my other
cars have Michelins. They include my beloved 1997 Acura NSX, my wife's PT
Cruiser, and our dog's Nissan Pathfinder (we keep it to transport him). I
have had good luck with Michelins. Unfortunately, there are so many types
of Michelins, I have to go to Tire Rack just to do a comparison.
We live in Santa Barbara, CA where the weather is mild year round, so winter
driving is not a concern.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
- Russ
Whitey - 20 Apr 2006 02:16 GMT
I used to be a Michelin person until I purchased their popular Pilot and was
very dissatisfied. I asked around and discovered Yokohama tires. These are
by far the best I've ever had.
The model is Yokohama V4S, purchased three years ago. These are high
performance touring tires (speed rating "V") that are extremely comfortable
and quiet (better than Michelin). They really stick to the road, are
excellent in the rain and the best feature is that they don't wear out
(treadwear rating "500").
What else can you ask for ?
Russell Lombardo - 20 Apr 2006 02:46 GMT
According to Tire Rack, the Yokohama Avid V4S tires are not available in the
correct size for the TL -- 235VR45R17. What size are you using on your car?
- Russ
On 04/19/2006 6:16 PM, in article 124do7315src87a@corp.supernews.com,
> I used to be a Michelin person until I purchased their popular Pilot and was
> very dissatisfied. I asked around and discovered Yokohama tires. These are
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>
> What else can you ask for ?
John Horner - 20 Apr 2006 04:55 GMT
> I used to be a Michelin person until I purchased their popular Pilot and was
> very dissatisfied. I asked around and discovered Yokohama tires. These are
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>
> What else can you ask for ?
I have the "H4S" version of that Yokohama on my 2003 Accord V-6 and like
them very much. Vastly better wet traction than the Michelin tires
which came on the Accord from the factory.
I would not hesitate to put the V4S tires on a TL, and will probably use
them on my new TSX when it is due.
John
Lee Florack - 20 Apr 2006 02:26 GMT
> My 2004 TL is nearing the need for replacement tires, even though Acura
> replaced the original Turanzas at about 5000 miles; the car has about 19,000
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>
> - Russ
You're right, those Turanzas are simply awful. Here's my opinion:
Get either Michelin Pilot Sport A/S or Pirelli PZero Nero M&S. I've
had both and they are both great tires.
dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com - 21 Apr 2006 12:32 GMT
> Unfortunately, there are so many types
> of Michelins, I have to go to Tire Rack just to do a comparison.
The sales people at The Tire Rack are usually helpful. At least some of
them are pretty good about road testing tires and have first hand
experience. I've received good information from Wes (X 648) about which
tires would best meet my needs. Usually, the top rated tires in their
categories are good choices. For the TL you may want to look at the
survey results for Ultra High Performance tires.
tww - 23 Apr 2006 21:34 GMT
> My 2004 TL is nearing the need for replacement tires, even though Acura
> replaced the original Turanzas at about 5000 miles; the car has about 19,000
> miles currently. Those Bridgestone Turanzas are just terrible tires.
Surprised you were disappointed. Tire Rack ratings for the Turanza LS V
(which I would guess came on your car) are quite high and were quite
comparable to a Michelin equivalent. For my part, I have had mixed results
with both Michelin and Bridgestone. The RE92s that came on my Prelude had
lousy dry and wet traction with indifferent handling whereas the RE 750 was
a delight and the exact opposite. Since I just traded my Prelude on an
Accord coupe, I will be interested to see how the Turanza OEMs work out on
the Accord.
> I would be grateful for any suggestions on replacement tires. All my other
> cars have Michelins. They include my beloved 1997 Acura NSX, my wife's PT
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>
> - Russ
Lee Florack - 23 Apr 2006 23:20 GMT
>> My 2004 TL is nearing the need for replacement tires, even though Acura
>> replaced the original Turanzas at about 5000 miles; the car has about
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> Accord coupe, I will be interested to see how the Turanza OEMs work out on
> the Accord.
If they're anything like the ones that came on the '04 TL's, they'll
suck. Make sure that you're looking at the tires that came on the
Acura TL's when you're looking on the Tire Rack. These are truly
terrible tires -- and I honestly don't say that very often. They're
bad in the snow and rain and not very good on dry pavement either.
Add that to the fact that they wear out very fast, and they simply
suck.
tww - 23 Apr 2006 23:53 GMT
> >> My 2004 TL is nearing the need for replacement tires, even though Acura
> >> replaced the original Turanzas at about 5000 miles; the car has about
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> Add that to the fact that they wear out very fast, and they simply
> suck.
The Turanzas on Tire Rack are the same as on the 06 Accords. Not sure what
came on the Acura in 04, which may have been different since it was two
years ago.
Dan - 24 Apr 2006 01:29 GMT
It doesn't come with Turanza LS V, but EL-42's. And yes,
they suck. I replaced mine at 14,000 w/ slightly wider
Toyo Proxes 4's (245/45/17). The extra width helps protect
the rims from curb rash,and I believe, looks better (the
235/45/17's almost look too narrow for the rim).
> Surprised you were disappointed. Tire Rack ratings for the Turanza LS V
> (which I would guess came on your car) are quite high and were quite
> comparable to a Michelin equivalent.
John Ginnane - 25 Apr 2006 19:38 GMT
> It doesn't come with Turanza LS V, but EL-42's. And yes,
> they suck. I replaced mine at 14,000 w/ slightly wider
> Toyo Proxes 4's (245/45/17). The extra width helps protect
> the rims from curb rash,and I believe, looks better (the
> 235/45/17's almost look too narrow for the rim).
There are numerous threads on the 3rd-gen TL and Turanza EL-42 issue -- go
to http://www.acurazine.com, register, select "Third generation TL", then
select "Tires".
On our 2005 anthracite TL, we got a full set of replacement tires at 17K
under warranty, including mounting and 4-wheel alignment. (Search for my
username, check the date on-or-about Jan 09 2006.) There have been several
official service bulletins, but I think we got by with a "courtesy" service
from our dealer.
Our replacements for the EL-42s were the Michelin Pilots, which list at
about 225 each. If you have to pay out of pocket, the tirerack.com website
shows the Avon Tech and Pirelli PZero-Nero M+S as the two highest rated
UHPAS, or "ultra-high performance all season" ... these were $110 and $138
in stock size back in January. (If you're going out of pocket consider
getting the slightly wider size, the 245/45-17s, for extra rubber contact.
As Dan says, above. :)
But first, dig up the latest service bulletin(s) from Acura (at
acurazine.com) and see if you're eligible for some discount. The EL-42s
never should have been on the TL in the first place -- see the comments at
tirerack about this particular tire.