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Car Forum / Acura Cars / September 2006

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'03 tl-s wouldn't take the radio code

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Dimitri Cohen - 30 Aug 2006 04:47 GMT
Hey everyone!

I've got a situation with my radio and its not accepting the code behavior
and it probably has been discussed here before but after searching on the
web and other forums I couldn't find anything feasible.
Here's what happened. I've gotten a new battery from the dealer and had it
installed by myself. That, of course, put my stock radio into the "CODE"
mode, for which I thought I was 100% prepared as my dealer did verify the
code against the radio's serial number and I also called the Acura's 800
number where they had me go through the "U" and the "L" number readouts
directly from the radio display itself...
To my dismay, after being done with the battery replacement, the radio
wouldn't take the code, period, constantly displaying "Err#" after each try
and then finally locking up with the "ErrE" message on the display, after
which I'd have to leave it for one hour for it to reset and then the story
repeats itself...
Now, seeing this, I quickly called the dealer to tell him about it and he
without a second thought immediately stated that it's a known problem with
the stock radios on the 02 and 03 models and said that the only way to make
the radio accept the code would be for me to remove the radio, unplug the
antenna jack and the ground it for a few seconds so that it lets go of the
static charge that's causing the radio to lock up in the "security" mode.
Obviously not wanting to go through the console removal procedure and hoping
there's another way to do this I called the 800 number for Acura again and
told them the whole story. They claimed that the dealer would probably know
best in these types of situations but also suggested that maybe
disconnecting both battery terminals from the car and then touching the 2
cable clips together for a few seconds may do the same trick... That sounded
like an easy way out for me but alas, it didn't help.
Today, I also thought of another way which is grounding that antenna plug
but not where it connects to the radio, but at the point where it jacks into
the rear view window, where it's easily accessible without me having have to
disassemble anything at all. Unfortunately that didn't help me either.
I'm really desperate at this moment as I can't drive without my stereo
anymore :) and am ready to go with my last (dealer suggested) resort, which
is taking the radio out but now the problem is that I can't find a good DIY
anywhere on how to do it on this generation's TL. The couple of references
that I found on some forums point to URLs that are no longer up.

So if anyone had (or heard of) a similar situation and were able to find a
solution, or if anyone has any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks a lot in advance!

Dimitri
Yoda - 30 Aug 2006 15:17 GMT
> Hey everyone!
>
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> Dimitri

You need to ground out the antenna jack? That's what it sounds like, as
you've been grounding the radio, and that  doesn't seem to be working.
It sounds kind of bogus to me, but short of learning how to remove the
console and radio, which shouldn't be "that" big of a deal if you're
into the other forms of diy repair you've mentioned, is to call the
dealer, and make an appointment for a quickie job  on this. It
shouldn't take long - if they actually know what they're doing it'll
take less than an hour.
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Dimitri Cohen - 31 Aug 2006 03:56 GMT
> You need to ground out the antenna jack? That's what it sounds like, as
> you've been grounding the radio, and that  doesn't seem to be working.

Yes, further searching on the forums I was able to confirm that the antenna
jack does need to be unplugged, and then, while it's unplugged, the code
needs to be entered, I couldn't find confirmation on needing to ground the
antenna though.

> It sounds kind of bogus to me, but short of learning how to remove the
> console and radio, which shouldn't be "that" big of a deal if you're into
> the other forms of diy repair you've mentioned, is to call the dealer, and
> make an appointment for a quickie job  on this. It shouldn't take long -
> if they actually know what they're doing it'll take less than an hour.

And I did call them - they want $100 for the job, and that's why I was
trying to see if anyone has done it on their own. I'm finding some verbal,
very concise descriptions on how to take the center console apart but
nothing that would really help me (I meantioned that a couple of very nice
and elaborate DIYs that I found references to were no longer there).

I guess if nothing turns up in the next couple of days, I'll, obviously,
just go to the dealer...

Thanks!
michael t - 31 Aug 2006 05:46 GMT
>> You need to ground out the antenna jack? That's what it sounds like, as
>> you've been grounding the radio, and that  doesn't seem to be working.
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> I guess if nothing turns up in the next couple of days, I'll, obviously,
> just go to the dealer...

Wouldn't it just be simpler to pay the 100 and get it over with?
Dimitri Cohen - 31 Aug 2006 06:04 GMT
>> I guess if nothing turns up in the next couple of days, I'll, obviously,
>> just go to the dealer...
>>
> Wouldn't it just be simpler to pay the 100 and get it over with?

in another case, where it's obvious that something needs repair due to
normal wear and tear (or even a road accident; something due to my own
fault, in other words), I wouldn't even think twice. But in this case, I
truly feel that I shouldn't be paying for something that the dealer himself
admitted happens to be a generic problem with the particular model and year.
The battery was from the dealer as well. Unfortunately, I'm very aware of my
chances of winning the battle over not having have to pay from something
like that, hence my efforts here to find alternate ways...
Like I said, I WILL go to the dealer just as soon as it's determined that I
have no other options.

Tnx.
Dimitri Cohen - 31 Aug 2006 16:46 GMT
Eureka! My persistence paid off!
I was very close on thinking that rather than messing around with the
antenna jack in the radio unit itself, the antenna plug on the rear view
window can be used for that purpose. Only, no grounding was needed (in my
case at least). What I did was:
After locking up the radio with another 10 error returning attempts, I left
it alone overnight which reset it to "CODE" again (one would probably need
to leave it alone just one hour as that's how long it takes for the radio to
reset from "ErrE" to "CODE").
Then, before trying to punch in any codes again, I unplugged the antenna
plug on REAR VIEW window. Left it like that for about 5 minutes (not sure if
that was actually necessary) and then turned on the radio and put in the
code, at which point the radio took it in on the very first try!..
I'll try to proliferate this solution to other sources.

Thanks everyone!
michael t - 31 Aug 2006 22:59 GMT
> Eureka! My persistence paid off!
> I was very close on thinking that rather than messing around with the
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> the code, at which point the radio took it in on the very first try!..
> I'll try to proliferate this solution to other sources.

Good on you, sad that the dealer missed out on his 100 though.
Yoda - 02 Sep 2006 04:29 GMT
>> Eureka! My persistence paid off!
>> I was very close on thinking that rather than messing around with the
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> Good on you, sad that the dealer missed out on his 100 though.

I'd say the dealer owes him 100$!
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Cavallo - 27 Sep 2006 01:42 GMT
> Eureka! My persistence paid off!
> I was very close on thinking that rather than messing around with the
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> Thanks everyone!

IT WORKS!!!!  After several days dealing with Acura "techs", it was
this solution that got my radio back in business.  Great posting
Dimitri!!
Cavallo - 27 Sep 2006 01:46 GMT
> Eureka! My persistence paid off!
> I was very close on thinking that rather than messing around with the
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> Thanks everyone!
 
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