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Car Forum / Acura Cars / December 2006

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oguzkaya@comcast.net - 10 Dec 2006 21:27 GMT
Hi Guys,
I have 2001 Acura Cl with Navigation. I was wondering does any body has a up to date ( at least newer than mine ) DVD ? Or where can I get reasonable priced SW.

Thanks


Larry in AZ - 11 Dec 2006 18:24 GMT
Waiving the right to remain silent, <oguzkaya@comcast.net> said:

> Hi Guys,
> I have 2001 Acura Cl with Navigation. I was wondering does any body has
> a up to date ( at least newer than mine ) DVD ? Or where can I get
> reasonable priced SW.
>
> Thanks

What's "reasonable"..?  I've never seen an inexpensive source for nav DVDs.

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oguzkaya@comcast.net - 12 Dec 2006 06:40 GMT
Reasonable means reasonable!!

Some times people sell things that they don't want or they may have a copy
that they are willing to sell less than retail price.

I hope I satisfied your question with my answers

> Waiving the right to remain silent, <oguzkaya@comcast.net> said:
>
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> What's "reasonable"..?  I've never seen an inexpensive source for nav
> DVDs.
Michael Pardee - 12 Dec 2006 12:10 GMT
> Reasonable means reasonable!!
>
> Some times people sell things that they don't want or they may have a copy
> that they are willing to sell less than retail price.
>
> I hope I satisfied your question with my answers

You are hoping somebody has already paid $250 and now decides they don't
care about the system any more? The demand is powerful, so the price would
still be high and the competition daunting. Otherwise you are talking about
data piracy (and it doesn't sound like you are). The DVDs cost so much
because a lot of work goes into compiling the info on them.

You can check out ebay, but I suspect you are likely to find more pirated
DVDs than legit ones.

Mike
John Finch - 12 Dec 2006 17:23 GMT
You might want to think about buying a stand-alone navigation system, such as a Garmin 330.
They update your road maps AND your software for free.  My 2000 Acura is still running with
its original DVD and I have resisted paying $180 for a new DVD.  From what I read they don't update
the logic, just the maps.  

John Finch

>> Reasonable means reasonable!!
>>
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> Mike
oguzkaya@comcast.net - 12 Dec 2006 19:46 GMT
Hello All,
Thanks for the suggestions. I think I will keep using my 2001 original DVD
that car came with.

Thanks Again

Ozzy

You might want to think about buying a stand-alone navigation system, such
as a Garmin 330.
They update your road maps AND your software for free.  My 2000 Acura is
still running with
its original DVD and I have resisted paying $180 for a new DVD.  From what I
read they don't update
the logic, just the maps.

John Finch

> <oguzkaya@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Mike
Larry in AZ - 12 Dec 2006 20:35 GMT
Waiving the right to remain silent, "John Finch" <john@thefinches.com>
said:

> You might want to think about buying a stand-alone navigation system,
> such as a Garmin 330. They update your road maps AND your software for
> free.  My 2000 Acura is still running with its original DVD and I have
> resisted paying $180 for a new DVD.  From what I read they don't update
> the logic, just the maps.

I looked over the list of current map updates for our 2004 TL nav system.  
There wasn't a single update for the Phoenix area, which has grown a lot with
new streets, etc., over the past three years.

For that, I'm going to shell out nearly $200..?

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John Horner - 13 Dec 2006 03:59 GMT
> You are hoping somebody has already paid $250 and now decides they don't
> care about the system any more? The demand is powerful, so the price would
> still be high and the competition daunting. Otherwise you are talking about
> data piracy (and it doesn't sound like you are). The DVDs cost so much
> because a lot of work goes into compiling the info on them.

Actually the price is so high because Honda/Alpine has a monopoly on
supplying them.  I recall reading that there are only two companies
which actually compile map data and then resell it to the many kinds of
users.   Somehow Yahoo maps and Google maps access that data at very low
cost to the user and portable map machines (Garmin, etc.) offer updates
for little or no fees.

The price is high only because they can get away with it.

Have you noticed how the price of portable GPS map units is dropping
like crazy, yet the price of the GPS map option on Hondas and other cars
stays stuck at nearly $2000?

John
Larry in AZ - 13 Dec 2006 19:55 GMT
Waiving the right to remain silent, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> said:

> Have you noticed how the price of portable GPS map units is dropping
> like crazy, yet the price of the GPS map option on Hondas and other cars
> stays stuck at nearly $2000?

I wold think that a DVD-based nav system would contain a lot more data than
what can be stuffed into a self-contained portable unit.

Also, some in-dash nav systems, such as the one in our Acura TL, are
integrated into the radio and bluetooth phone link, etc.

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John Horner - 14 Dec 2006 19:02 GMT
> Waiving the right to remain silent, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> said:
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> I wold think that a DVD-based nav system would contain a lot more data than
> what can be stuffed into a self-contained portable unit.

A DVD can hold just short of 8 gig of data as a dual layer disk or just
under 4 gig with a single layer disk.  These capacities are now well
within the range of flash memory.
Lee Florack - 15 Dec 2006 04:06 GMT
> Waiving the right to remain silent, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> said:
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> Also, some in-dash nav systems, such as the one in our Acura TL, are
> integrated into the radio and bluetooth phone link, etc.

The nav system on the Acura's (RL 7 TL anyway) are also an integral
part of the air conditioning system.  Based on where you are, the
time of day and the direction you're traveling (all resulting in the
location of the sun), the system puts more a/c on the appropriate side.
Larry in AZ - 12 Dec 2006 20:37 GMT
Waiving the right to remain silent, <oguzkaya@comcast.net> said:

> Reasonable means reasonable!!
>
> Some times people sell things that they don't want or they may have a copy
> that they are willing to sell less than retail price.
>
> I hope I satisfied your question with my answers

You still didn't define what "reasonable" means to you...

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BK - 13 Dec 2006 21:21 GMT
I have a Garmin StreetPilot III, and the map updates are NOT free.  They
update the software, but if you want updated maps they COST.
> Waiving the right to remain silent, <oguzkaya@comcast.net> said:
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> You still didn't define what "reasonable" means to you...
 
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