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Doh! Didn't tighten gas cap all the way, engine light came on...

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Yoda - 26 Jan 2007 21:38 GMT
Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
them reset the light?

I know, I've read tegger's faq, doesn't sound like there's much hope.

It's a 2002 RSX base.
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Yoda - 26 Jan 2007 22:09 GMT
> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
> them reset the light?
>
> I know, I've read tegger's faq, doesn't sound like there's much hope.
>
> It's a 2002 RSX base.

Uh... never mind. Disconnected the battery for a few minutes, the light
was off when I restarted it. As long as the gas cap was all it was...
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motsco_ - 27 Jan 2007 02:08 GMT
>> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
>> them reset the light?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Uh... never mind. Disconnected the battery for a few minutes, the light
> was off when I restarted it. As long as the gas cap was all it was...

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Three 'trips' normally corrects it. Trip = fully warmed up engine, then
shut off. This is in the Honda (owner's) manuals . . Maybe different for
Integra?

'Curly'
Tegger - 27 Jan 2007 02:55 GMT
motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in news:12rlcqonb1hav58
@corp.supernews.com:

>>> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
>>> them reset the light?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> shut off. This is in the Honda (owner's) manuals . . Maybe different for
> Integra?

Same with the 'Teg/RSX.

Disconnecting the battery's OK so long as you don't have to get the car
smogged for the next month or so. And so long as you've got your radio's
anti-theft code.

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Sandy - 28 Jan 2007 01:07 GMT
Tegger -

Could you elaborate on the smog check & battery disconnection issue? I am
about to replace my radio and expected to have to disconnect the battery in
the process. Does a smog check require a certain minimum of history on the
computer module or something? Thanks.

> motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in news:12rlcqonb1hav58
> @corp.supernews.com:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> smogged for the next month or so. And so long as you've got your radio's
> anti-theft code.
Michael Pardee - 28 Jan 2007 13:21 GMT
> Tegger -
>
> Could you elaborate on the smog check & battery disconnection issue? I am
> about to replace my radio and expected to have to disconnect the battery
> in the process. Does a smog check require a certain minimum of history on
> the computer module or something? Thanks.

Normally, emission tests require about a month of history on the ECU to
prevent people from disconnecting the battery to wipe out emission codes
before a test. The test isn't failed for lack of history, just deferred.

Personally, I don't recall any radio swaps I've felt the need to disconnect
the battery for. It's usually a pretty tame process.

Mike
Tegger - 28 Jan 2007 14:18 GMT
> Tegger -
>
> Could you elaborate on the smog check & battery disconnection issue? I
> am about to replace my radio and expected to have to disconnect the
> battery in the process. Does a smog check require a certain minimum of
> history on the computer module or something? Thanks.

Sort of. There are certain monitors in the emissions computer that are
known as "readiness flags". These flags must all report "ready" when
checked. Disconnecting the battery also zeroes all the monitors (none are
"ready").
If your location uses the dynamometer method of checking emissions and does
not poll the ECM, then you're fine, flags ready or not. If your area's smog
stations plug in an OBD-II scanner instead, the car may fail on account of
at least one monitor not reporting "ready".

The correct way of clearing any error codes is to use the OBD-II scanner.
This way the monitors retain power, and thus their setting.

Depending on your type and amount of driving, it can take anywhere from
hours to days to weeks for all the flags to set on their own if the battery
has been disconnected. There is an official, specific, "drive cycle" that
is supposed to set all the flags during the cycle.

If you have to replace your radio, you have no choice but to disconnect the
battery. You will then need to wait a while before being able to get the
car smogged. If an emissions test is looming, and you have the choice, it
would be preferable to wait until the car has passed the test, then do any
electrical work that requires disconnecting the battery. Then the flags can
take as long as they want to reset.

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Tegger - 27 Jan 2007 03:03 GMT
>> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
>> them reset the light?

Sure is. Shoulda asked here first.

>> I know, I've read tegger's faq, doesn't sound like there's much hope.
>>
>> It's a 2002 RSX base.

Love the RSX's styling. I liked it way better than the '94-'01 'Teg.
Actually the only other ones I liked were the second gen '90-'93's (hey, I
bought one new, so...).

> Uh... never mind. Disconnected the battery for a few minutes, the light
> was off when I restarted it. As long as the gas cap was all it was...

...and you'll never know now. Too bad.

AutoZone in the US and PartSource in Canada will allow you to read OBD-II
error codes for the magic price of "free".

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Jim Yanik - 27 Jan 2007 04:56 GMT
>>> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
>>> them reset the light?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Actually the only other ones I liked were the second gen '90-'93's
> (hey, I bought one new, so...).

IMO,the RSX is ugly.I don't like that "overinflated" look the new cars
have.

I'd put the 93 Integra first(but without the icky auto seatbelts),then the
94-01,wouldn't even consider the RSX. Of course,I wish they still made the
last model Prelude.too.
But with LED taillights,CHMSL,and amber rear LED turn signals. 8-)

I see the new Civic has LED taillights.

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Tegger - 27 Jan 2007 13:40 GMT
> I'd put the 93 Integra first(but without the icky auto seatbelts)

Canada never got those (snicker). We got normal belts.

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Yoda - 27 Jan 2007 18:51 GMT
>>>> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
>>>> them reset the light?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> I see the new Civic has LED taillights.

Heard ya the last time. Love you, man!
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Michael Pardee - 27 Jan 2007 13:17 GMT
> AutoZone in the US and PartSource in Canada will allow you to read OBD-II
> error codes for the magic price of "free".

Ditto the US chain of Schucks/Checker/Kragen. According to a radio
commercial I heard a couple days ago, Aamco (the transmission repair chain)
seems to be reading and clearing codes gratis now. I wouldn't recommend them
for any diagnoses or repairs, though. :-(

Mike
Yoda - 27 Jan 2007 18:50 GMT
>>> Oh nuts. Is there any way to avoid a trip to the dealer just to have
>>> them reset the light?
>
> Sure is. Shoulda asked here first.

I did. And then did some basic, simple, safe experimentation, and it
fixed it without a trip anywhere. Yay! Although now I know about
autoshack's free service.

Styling/fashion discussion snipped and ignored. I still like my rsx,
but if one is going to get into comparing it with other cars, there's
lots of better (and worse) options out there, appearance wise.

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Tegger - 27 Jan 2007 23:41 GMT
> Styling/fashion discussion snipped and ignored.

What a nice guy.

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Yoda - 28 Jan 2007 00:06 GMT
>> Styling/fashion discussion snipped and ignored.
>
> What a nice guy.

Sorry, I was having one of my moments of assholeness. They come much
too frequently.

It's just that there are these 2 regular, highly respected (by me, at
least) posters here who frequently jump on the styling of the rsx. Not
that it matters, but come on guys. If I had the choice between the
syling of the 92 integra, and the rsx, but both were available in brand
new condition, similarly priced, these opinions might mean something to
me, but that wasn't the case, so ignore me if I throw your opinions off.

FWIW, my dad was one of the very first american buyers of an acura, way
back in 1985, and has been through quite a few of them, and he's always
tried to get me to buy an integra. So I've dutifully test driven many
of them, and they never quite did it for me until I tried a rsx.
Something about this model just clicked with me - I love driving it!

I will definitely agree with Jim Yanik - another 92 or so integra
parked next to me once, and I was impressed with the similarities -
besides being the same color, and having a spoiler, etc - but the big
difference was that my rsx indeed did look like someone had pumped it
up with an air pump.

I will add that for me, and perhaps many of rsx drivers, the rsx is a
sort of compromise between what we want, and what we can afford. I paid
17k for mine, which is about what I can afford comfortably, but if I
had more, the rsx might have dropped off my list. Hmm, I was going
somewhere with this thought, but now I have to go - maybe later.
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Jim Yanik - 28 Jan 2007 02:28 GMT
>>> Styling/fashion discussion snipped and ignored.
>>
>> What a nice guy.
>
> Sorry, I was having one of my moments of assholeness. They come much
> too frequently.

I didn't take offense.
I DID state the same opinion many months ago on this NG.
"Different strokes for different folks",everybody has their likes/dislikes.

> It's just that there are these 2 regular, highly respected (by me, at
> least) posters here who frequently jump on the styling of the rsx. Not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> of them, and they never quite did it for me until I tried a rsx.
> Something about this model just clicked with me - I love driving it!

Honda/Acura always has great mechanicals.Their "feel" is consistent across
their product line.

> I will definitely agree with Jim Yanik - another 92 or so integra
> parked next to me once, and I was impressed with the similarities -
> besides being the same color, and having a spoiler, etc - but the big
> difference was that my rsx indeed did look like someone had pumped it
> up with an air pump.

I believe this is due to the aerodynamics to reduce drag,it ends up making
all the cars look like the futuristic cars in movies;"bubble" or egg-shaped
cars.

Myself,I've always liked the low,wide-track sleek look.
High,narrow and "inflated" reminds me of the Toyota Echo.
The 1986 and last model Preludes were the best style-wise.

Unfortunately,automakers are moving away from the low,wide look.
(odd,considering the "modders" are lowering cars they buy...)

I'd have a hard time choosing a NEW auto from today's selection.

> I will add that for me, and perhaps many of rsx drivers, the rsx is a
> sort of compromise between what we want, and what we can afford. I paid
> 17k for mine, which is about what I can afford comfortably, but if I
> had more, the rsx might have dropped off my list. Hmm, I was going
> somewhere with this thought, but now I have to go - maybe later.

BTW,Acura decided to STOP making the RSX,last I read.

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Yoda - 28 Jan 2007 02:53 GMT
> BTW,Acura decided to STOP making the RSX,last I read.

Yes indeed, they not only decided, they actually stopped already.
They've been completely unavailable new here for some months -
apparently there are still some on the lots in other locations,
althought the last shipment has already come and gone. Now the closest
thing to a sporty car you can get from acura is the TL type s - not a
bad choice, actually.
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Michael Pardee - 28 Jan 2007 13:24 GMT
> High,narrow and "inflated" reminds me of the Toyota Echo.

Or maybe the AMC Pacer ;-)
Jim Yanik - 28 Jan 2007 16:09 GMT
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in news:XsGdnVSDm-
fvOSHYnZ2dnUVZ_tWhnZ2d@sedona.net:

>> High,narrow and "inflated" reminds me of the Toyota Echo.
>
> Or maybe the AMC Pacer ;-)

the Pacer was "wide-track" compared to the Echo. :-)

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