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Car Forum / Acura Cars / April 2007

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ATF Flush at 26K ?

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firewolf - 06 Apr 2007 16:25 GMT
04 TSX  AT  @ 26K

The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has the
proper equiptments)
How much does it cost on average ?

thanks
motsco_ - 06 Apr 2007 17:57 GMT
> 04 TSX  AT  @ 26K
>
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> thanks

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Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
'power flush' that kind of tranny.

Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never
change ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I
buy, but yours is fairly new.

'Curly'
firewolf - 06 Apr 2007 19:02 GMT
"motsco_"
> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
> 'power flush' that kind of tranny.
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> 'Curly'

Really ?
not supposed to flush the tranny with one of those fancy power-flush
equiptment I read about
?
why ?
motsco_ - 07 Apr 2007 04:05 GMT
> "motsco_"
>> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
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> ?
> why ?

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Murphy's Law states that they have an 80% chance of hooking it up
BACKWARDS, which would back-flush the contents of the internal filter
throughout the whole tranny :-(

'Curly'
John Horner - 07 Apr 2007 02:22 GMT
> 04 TSX  AT  @ 26K
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> thanks

The Honda owners and service manual specifically say to use multiple
drain-fill-drive cycles to do a complete transmission fluid change.
Four times over, in fact.   Also it is important to use the right fluid,
which unfortunately is only sold by Honda/Acura dealers, ATF-Z1.  The
Honda method is quite easy to do, if time consuming.  Shops love the
flush machines because they are fast, but I suspect Honda has some good
reason for not wanting the machine used.

I do this change out cycle once every 30k miles on our Honda/Acuras.

John
Ron Marraccini - 07 Apr 2007 08:36 GMT
Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
supposed to be done?

Other than a $$$ motive that is.
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Ron A. Marraccini

>> 04 TSX  AT  @ 26K
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> John
Gordon McGrew - 07 Apr 2007 14:26 GMT
>Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>supposed to be done?
>
>Other than a $$$ motive that is.

What other motive does he need?
motsco_ - 07 Apr 2007 14:45 GMT
>> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
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> What other motive does he need?  

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If there's another motive out there, I'd like to hear it too!

'Curly'
Ron Marraccini - 07 Apr 2007 16:51 GMT
Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?

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Ron A. Marraccini

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>>> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
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> 'Curly'
motsco_ - 08 Apr 2007 18:53 GMT
> Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?

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Read page four of this Honda bulletin:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a060200.PDF

'Curly'
Ron Marraccini - 09 Apr 2007 19:49 GMT
Hi,

I see that this article applies to "aftermarket" flushing.

My Acura dealer gave me two options;

1) Drain & refill Transmission- $50.00 (don't know if it's 1-2-3 times or
what?)
2) Transmission flush - $150.00 (recommended by them)

The transmission was already replaced once @ 28,000 via warrantee.

I am in a quandary as to what course to follow as I don't want the tranny
screwed up.

Thanks.

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Ron A. Marraccini

>> Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?
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> 'Curly'
John Horner - 13 Apr 2007 21:43 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Thanks.

I would call Acura customer care and talk to them about your dealer.
Alternatively, find a Honda or Acura dealer who will do the job by the
book.  All flushing is aftermarket flushing since Acura doesn't approve
of or supply such equipment.  Just because a dealer does the job doesn't
mean they are using Acura approved methods or materials.

John
John Horner - 09 Apr 2007 06:46 GMT
> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
> supposed to be done?
>
> Other than a $$$ motive that is.

I doubt it!  Those machines are big money makers.
 
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