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Car Forum / Acura Cars / April 2007

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really real - 14 Apr 2007 00:21 GMT
I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player. Is
it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound system?
Tegger - 14 Apr 2007 00:56 GMT
> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound
> system?

My goodness, you're a busy one.

See my reply to this identical message in alt.autos.honda.

How many other groups did you independently post this to?

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really real - 14 Apr 2007 01:03 GMT
>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
>> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> How many other groups did you independently post this to?

I have no idea how the Honda and Acura groups work these days, so I
posted everywhere.
Tegger - 14 Apr 2007 02:06 GMT
really real <reallyreal@shaw.ca> wrote in news:5TUTh.69078$6m4.19422
@pd7urf1no:

>>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
>>> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I have no idea how the Honda and Acura groups work these days, so I
> posted everywhere.

You sure did. And improperly, at that.

You should learn to cross-post. That's how you post "everywhere".

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really real - 14 Apr 2007 02:26 GMT
> You sure did. And improperly, at that.
>
> You should learn to cross-post. That's how you post "everywhere".

So, what would the difference have been with a cross post? Wouldn't it
still have appeared on all the lists?
Tegger - 14 Apr 2007 02:39 GMT
really real <reallyreal@shaw.ca> wrote in news:q5WTh.69317$6m4.31812
@pd7urf1no:

>> You sure did. And improperly, at that.
>>
>> You should learn to cross-post. That's how you post "everywhere".
>
> So, what would the difference have been with a cross post? Wouldn't it
> still have appeared on all the lists?

Yes, but any *replies* would have been limited to the single particular
group you posted to, and that group only. None of the other groups would
have known of, or benefited from, any replies to any other groups.

Had you cross-posted properly, all the replies would have shown up in all
groups you posted to all at the same time, meaning everybody everywhere
would have been equally educated, and there would have been no duplication.

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really real - 14 Apr 2007 05:58 GMT
> Had you cross-posted properly, all the replies would have shown up in all
> groups you posted to all at the same time, meaning everybody everywhere
> would have been equally educated, and there would have been no duplication.

Ah, that's an important difference. Is it hard to figure out how to
cross post?
Tegger - 14 Apr 2007 22:48 GMT
>> Had you cross-posted properly, all the replies would have shown up in
>> all groups you posted to all at the same time, meaning everybody
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Ah, that's an important difference. Is it hard to figure out how to
> cross post?

Nope.

In the little bar that shows the group you're posting to, you have to add
other groups manually. Their names should be separated by commas, but no
spaces.

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firewolf - 15 Apr 2007 20:47 GMT
> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player. Is
> it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound system?

what is the problem ???
You're still covered by warranty, why not take it to dealer ?
really real - 15 Apr 2007 23:46 GMT
>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player. Is
>> it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound system?
>
> what is the problem ???
> You're still covered by warranty, why not take it to dealer ?

It took almost a month for the dealer to fix the cd player by replacing
it with a rebuilt one. This one is developing intermittent problems, but
the dealer won't fix it until it stops working for him, and then, I'd
wait another month.

I don't much like the cd player anyway and suspect I could get better
sound with a different one.
Tegger - 16 Apr 2007 00:14 GMT
>>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
>>> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> problems, but the dealer won't fix it until it stops working for him,
> and then, I'd wait another month.

Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.

Honda also requires that dealers submit the warranty claim, AND wait for
confirmation, before performing the repair. This means lots of time goes by
before they are authorized to perform the repair.

> I don't much like the cd player anyway and suspect I could get better
> sound with a different one.

Probably, but intrusion into the factory wiring setup is a recipe for
disaster, especially these days.

If you do decide to go aftermarket, have a _qualified_ professional shop do
the work, and insist they use an "aftermarket harness" so the factory
wiring is not altered.

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really real - 16 Apr 2007 15:59 GMT
> Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.
>
> Honda also requires that dealers submit the warranty claim, AND wait for
> confirmation, before performing the repair. This means lots of time goes by
> before they are authorized to perform the repair.

nah, the bastards just waited until they had a rebuilt cd player they
could give me.
Tegger - 16 Apr 2007 16:23 GMT
>> Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> nah, the bastards just waited until they had a rebuilt cd player they
> could give me.

Failed units are replaced with rebuilts. That is Honda policy on this
issue. Failed audio units are sent to a Honda-authorized repair center,
remanufactured, then reissued.

If the dealer does not wait until they get warranty clearance from Honda,
they may have to eat the cost of replacing your radio. It makes no sense
for them to replace your audio unit until they get approval.

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really real - 16 Apr 2007 23:13 GMT
> Failed units are replaced with rebuilts. That is Honda policy on this
> issue. Failed audio units are sent to a Honda-authorized repair center,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> they may have to eat the cost of replacing your radio. It makes no sense
> for them to replace your audio unit until they get approval.

The dealer promised me a new unit, seeing as the car was only a few
months old. Then, he stalled and stalled for about a month.
Honda Canada was embarrassed when I complained and gave me some free
service for compensation. But having the newly rebuilt one start to
screw up really has me annoyed.
Tegger - 17 Apr 2007 00:41 GMT
>> Failed units are replaced with rebuilts. That is Honda policy on this
>> issue. Failed audio units are sent to a Honda-authorized repair
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> The dealer promised me a new unit,

He can't do that; Honda won't give him one. You probably got that
promise from a new Service Advisor who didn't know any better and didn't
think to ask. Or maybe one who was sick of you bending his ear with
complaints and just said something nice to make you go away.

> seeing as the car was only a few
> months old. Then, he stalled and stalled for about a month.
> Honda Canada was embarrassed when I complained and gave me some free
> service for compensation. But having the newly rebuilt one start to
> screw up really has me annoyed.

Like I said, they've been having lots of trouble with their audio units.
Lots of TSBs on them.

But audio units are not like, say, transmissions, and will not receive
the same sort of corporate expenditure Honda is willing to lay out on
trannies.

Dealers have a hard row to hoe sometimes. Financially, dealers are
usually at Honda's mercy. Plus they have no say in what they must buy
from Honda, but they still have to sell and service what Honda sells to
them, no matter how inadequate or defective.

Keep bringin' it back as long as your warranty is in effect; make them
work for their money. Eventually you'll get a radio that keeps working.
I know this is a pain, but at least it's not a "stranded vehicle"
problem, like you might get with, say, Ford...

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really real - 17 Apr 2007 15:32 GMT
> Dealers have a hard row to hoe sometimes. Financially, dealers are
> usually at Honda's mercy. Plus they have no say in what they must buy
> from Honda, but they still have to sell and service what Honda sells to
> them, no matter how inadequate or defective.

I can understand that. Another problem is a lot of people don't care
about music that much in their cars, so the service people don't realize
what a hardship it is for someone like me to be stuck listening to the
radio for a month instead of being able to play my own music, either
through my cds or my iPod.

I'd be happy to relieve Honda of the problem by buying a better audio
unit, if I could find one that actually fit into a TSX. With so many
audio problems, one would think Honda fans would know about good audio
replacements, but I guess the TSX isn't exactly the car that
enthusiastic music fans usually buy.
John Horner - 18 Apr 2007 15:53 GMT
> I'd be happy to relieve Honda of the problem by buying a better audio
> unit, if I could find one that actually fit into a TSX. With so many
> audio problems, one would think Honda fans would know about good audio
> replacements, but I guess the TSX isn't exactly the car that
> enthusiastic music fans usually buy.

I would call Crutchfield and see what they have to say:

http://www.crutchfield.com/
really real - 18 Apr 2007 18:36 GMT
> I would call Crutchfield and see what they have to say:
>
> http://www.crutchfield.com/

Thanks for the tip. It looks like a great site. They should have an
answer for me tomorrow
JXStern - 21 Apr 2007 01:27 GMT
>Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.

Such as?

My second Accord (excuse me for intruding in the Acura group!) in a
row, it seems the audio loses volume with age, or something.  And
isn't that well designed in the first place to be heard over wind
noise.  I complained to the dealer on the previous one, they just
shrugged and said it seemed fine to them.

>Probably, but intrusion into the factory wiring setup is a recipe for
>disaster, especially these days.
>
>If you do decide to go aftermarket, have a _qualified_ professional shop do
>the work, and insist they use an "aftermarket harness" so the factory
>wiring is not altered.

Good to know, thanks.

Though I just lease the things, so doing mods esp when still under
warranty, seems contraindicated.  But I've sure seen and heard some
zippy aftermarket units in other people's cars!

J.
Nobody - 23 Apr 2007 04:14 GMT
> Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.
>
> Honda also requires that dealers submit the warranty claim, AND wait
> for confirmation, before performing the repair. This means lots of
> time goes by before they are authorized to perform the repair.

Poor radio reception is the number one thing I see.
Bob - 24 Apr 2007 01:16 GMT
> > Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.
> >
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>
> Poor radio reception is the number one thing I see.

I don't think I've ever used the non-satellite radio in mine. I assume
it works.

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