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Car Forum / Acura Cars / October 2007

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RSX Engine Warning Light On After Engine Stall

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Gary Brown - 15 Oct 2007 18:51 GMT
Hi,

My daughter's engine warning light came on after she stalled
the engine.  It has been over a week and it is still on.  Is this
normal?  Does it require attention?  She has a 2003 RSX
S-Type, manual 6 speed.

Thanks,
Gary
I. Care - 15 Oct 2007 19:40 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks,
> Gary

If the check engine light is on it should have set a code.  Have the
code read out to see what the error problem is.  Many Auto Parts stores
will do it for free.
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Tegger - 15 Oct 2007 20:17 GMT
"Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:lKNQi.11$U_5.10
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> Hi,
>
> My daughter's engine warning light came on after she stalled
> the engine.  It has been over a week and it is still on.  Is this
> normal?  Does it require attention?  She has a 2003 RSX
> S-Type, manual 6 speed.

It's probably a transient set by the stall.

Pull the 15A ECM fuse. It's fuse #17, the end one of the group of three
right at the very back or the very front  (I forget which) of the under-
hood fuse box. Wait 30 seconds then put it back.

This will clear any DTC's and turn the light off.

If the light subsequently turns back on again, then you need to get the
error code read by somebody with an OBD-II scanner.

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Jim Yanik - 15 Oct 2007 21:23 GMT
> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:lKNQi.11$U_5.10
> @newsfe05.lga:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> right at the very back or the very front  (I forget which) of the under-
> hood fuse box. Wait 30 seconds then put it back.

Only 30 seconds?
Shouldn't it take longer than that,like maybe 10 minutes or more?
Perhaps you meant 30 minutes instead of 30 seconds?

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Tegger - 16 Oct 2007 01:06 GMT
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns99CAA6E0E13A1jyanikkuanet@
64.209.0.86:

>> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:lKNQi.11$U_5.10
>> @newsfe05.lga:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Shouldn't it take longer than that,like maybe 10 minutes or more?
> Perhaps you meant 30 minutes instead of 30 seconds?

OK, thirty minutes then. Won't hurt anything.

Seriously though, I doubt Honda is using caps with a 30-minute persistence.

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Gary Brown - 17 Oct 2007 22:49 GMT
> My daughter's engine warning light came on after she stalled
> the engine.  It has been over a week and it is still on.  Is this

She called the local dealer (Acura of Boston) who told her to
bring the car in.  It was a bad O2 sensor at $600 to replace.
Why would this appear only after a stall?

Gary
Tegger - 17 Oct 2007 22:53 GMT
"Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:TqvRi.27$Ef2.20
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>> My daughter's engine warning light came on after she stalled
>> the engine.  It has been over a week and it is still on.  Is this
>
> She called the local dealer (Acura of Boston) who told her to
> bring the car in.  It was a bad O2 sensor at $600 to replace.
> Why would this appear only after a stall?

Coincidence. There's no connection between the stall and the oxygen sensor.

I'll bet it was a O2 sensor heater code. That's the most common type.

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Jim Yanik - 18 Oct 2007 00:24 GMT
> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:TqvRi.27$Ef2.20
> @newsfe04.lga:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I'll bet it was a O2 sensor heater code. That's the most common type.

Aren't RSX's new enough that the O2 sensor would be covered under warranty?
Like the emissions warranty?

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Tegger - 18 Oct 2007 00:32 GMT
>> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:TqvRi.27$Ef2.20
>> @newsfe04.lga:
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> Aren't RSX's new enough that the O2 sensor would be covered under
> warranty? Like the emissions warranty?

Not for an oxygen sensor.

O2 sensors are covered under the automaker's routine powertrain warranty,
which for Honda is 3/36. And this car is an '03.

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Jim Yanik - 18 Oct 2007 03:59 GMT
>>> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:TqvRi.27$Ef2.20
>>> @newsfe04.lga:
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> O2 sensors are covered under the automaker's routine powertrain
> warranty, which for Honda is 3/36. And this car is an '03.

seems that an O2 sensor would affect emissions,thus be under it's longer
warranty.
Ah,well.....

thanks anyways!

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Tegger - 18 Oct 2007 12:01 GMT
> seems that an O2 sensor would affect emissions,thus be under it's
> longer warranty.
> Ah,well.....
>
> thanks anyways!

See here:
http://www.epa.gov/obd/warranties.htm

Most parts carry a 2/24 federal warranty unless the automaker warrants them
for longer.

The cat and ECU/OBD carry an 8/80 federal warranty.

Oxygen sensors are covered under Honda's normal powertrain warranty, which
I'm pretty sure is 3/36 for the OP.

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Sparky - 19 Oct 2007 02:29 GMT
>> seems that an O2 sensor would affect emissions,thus be under it's
>> longer warranty.
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>Oxygen sensors are covered under Honda's normal powertrain warranty, which
>I'm pretty sure is 3/36 for the OP.

The 2005 Acura RSX has a 4 yr/50,000 mile warranty...
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Yoda - 19 Oct 2007 04:06 GMT
>>>> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:TqvRi.27$Ef2.20
>>>> @newsfe04.lga:
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>
> thanks anyways!

Nope. Wish it was. I just had to replace mine - no coverage at 5+ years
and over 60k miles. I only had to pay 440$ for mine though - such a
bargain!
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nick@nowhere.com - 22 Oct 2007 04:20 GMT
The O2 sensor costs $220. This job should take about 10 minutes to
replace....I can't imagine that they could charge over 30 minutes to
replace it ~ $270. I would suggest you try finding another shop to get
this replaced at.

>> My daughter's engine warning light came on after she stalled
>> the engine.  It has been over a week and it is still on.  Is this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Gary
Gary Brown - 22 Oct 2007 07:01 GMT
> The O2 sensor costs $220. This job should take about 10 minutes to
> replace....I can't imagine that they could charge over 30 minutes to
> replace it ~ $270. I would suggest you try finding another shop to get
> this replaced at.

+ $100 to read the OBD + Massachusetts + Boston + an Acura Dealer
Tegger - 22 Oct 2007 11:26 GMT
"Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:%mXSi.6410$6o4.4615
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>> The O2 sensor costs $220. This job should take about 10 minutes to
>> replace....I can't imagine that they could charge over 30 minutes to
>> replace it ~ $270. I would suggest you try finding another shop to get
>> this replaced at.
>
> + $100 to read the OBD + Massachusetts + Boston + an Acura Dealer

Read the OBD for FREE at AutoZone. Try it.

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Jim Yanik - 22 Oct 2007 17:36 GMT
> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:%mXSi.6410$6o4.4615
> @newsfe02.lga:
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>
> Read the OBD for FREE at AutoZone. Try it.

I also don't know why an OEM O2 sensor would cost even $200.

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Tegger - 23 Oct 2007 00:24 GMT
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns99D18045CCEF8jyanikkuanet@
64.209.0.85:

>> "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown@charter.net> wrote in news:%mXSi.6410$6o4.4615
>> @newsfe02.lga:
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>
> I also don't know why an OEM O2 sensor would cost even $200.

Dealer markup is about 60%. This means approximately $120 wholesale price.
OEM is likely made to higher standards than aftermarket offerings,
accounting for any other difference in price.

Honda has been fanatically "green" since the early '70s. They put LOTS of
money into emissions components, and buy the best from their suppliers.

OEM Honda cats are of wildly excellent quality, which is partially why they
cost a thousand dollars new and last the life of the car when cared for.

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