>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
>> @newsfe23.lga:
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> ourselves before getting dealer involved...It' out of warranty so I
> doubt they'll agree to pay for it
They won't pay for this.
And headamps these days all have separate bulbs, removable (often with
difficulty) from the rear of the assembly.
If the moisture's not getting in through a badly-sealed bulb O-ring, then
it's due to a failed seal between lens and reflector. To fix this you need
to remove the entire headlamp from the car, which is a highly non-trivial
operation involving removal of the entire front bumper.
Some people report success applying silicone caulk all around the
lens/reflector join. I prefer to drill a series of 1/16" or 3/32" holes in
the bottom of the plastic reflector, immediately behind the lens. These
holes allow better air flow than just the OEM drain/vent tube that's
mounted part-way up the reflector.

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nick@nowhere.com - 01 Jul 2008 19:39 GMT
>>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
>>> @newsfe23.lga:
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>holes allow better air flow than just the OEM drain/vent tube that's
>mounted part-way up the reflector.
Agreed I don't think the dealer will pay for the cost of this. I know
that the 04 TSXs had this problem but Acura paid for the replacement
as there was a high number of people who were getting this problem.
Seals go bad and unfortunately the only true way to repair this is by
replacing the headlamp assembly. Make sure that you don't let a puddle
of water form on the inside of the lens or you can kiss you headlights
goodbye, and those Xeon bulbs are expensive to replace.
And as tegger says, it requires the removal of the front bumper so you
need to be mechanically inclined to do this. It isn't an impossible
job to do but you need to know what you are doing.
tww1491 - 03 Jul 2008 01:13 GMT
>>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
>>> @newsfe23.lga:
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> to remove the entire headlamp from the car, which is a highly non-trivial
> operation involving removal of the entire front bumper.
Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the design of
the front ends.
> Some people report success applying silicone caulk all around the
> lens/reflector join. I prefer to drill a series of 1/16" or 3/32" holes in
> the bottom of the plastic reflector, immediately behind the lens. These
> holes allow better air flow than just the OEM drain/vent tube that's
> mounted part-way up the reflector.
Tegger - 03 Jul 2008 01:26 GMT
> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
> design of the front ends.
Yes.
In fact, it's even harder than it used to be. At one time it took just four
bolts accessed through the signal light apertures and the bumper was off.
Now it takes about a dozen other fasteners that hold the skin to the rebar,
then the fasteners that hold the rebar to the body.
My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...

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Jim Yanik - 03 Jul 2008 13:45 GMT
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>
> My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...
you just need to remove the bumper COVER to get to the headlghts,I believe.

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Tegger - 04 Jul 2008 00:41 GMT
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> you just need to remove the bumper COVER to get to the headlghts,I
> believe.
The OP will need a genuine Honda shop manual to be sure, eh?
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tww1491 - 04 Jul 2008 01:50 GMT
>> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
>> design of the front ends.
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>
> My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...
The 1965 Sunbeam Tiger I had some 40 + years ago came with a small monkey.
All kidding aside, it was a heck of lot easier to work on.
Ron Marraccini - 07 Jul 2008 17:51 GMT
I've had this problem before and I found a quick, if only temporary fix.
Undo (or not) the clip holding the wiring on to the
rear of the bulb connector. Then take the bulb out from the rear of the
assembly
which requires a half turn to get it out and set it aside
being careful not to touch it or let it touch anything.
( I rest it on a clean, lint free microfiber cloth)
Then take a hair dryer and blow warm air into the opening
which clears the condensation after a short while.
Obviously this is only a quick/temporary fix
but it works well on my 8 yr. old TL and I have
only had to do it twice since I bought it new.
Ron Marraccini
>>> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
>>> design of the front ends.
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> The 1965 Sunbeam Tiger I had some 40 + years ago came with a small monkey.
> All kidding aside, it was a heck of lot easier to work on.