Today, my 156 doesen't feel like other days: between 3500 and 5000 RPMs, the
engine is something like 'strangled', it has some hesitation in giving
power... finally, a momentary lapse of power. (Pink Floyd enthusiast will
understand me ;-)
Monday the light 'engine failure' came up, stayed turned on for the whole
day, then yesterday afternoon went out. For the whole time that the light
was on, the engine runned well. Took to a Bosh Service, and the engine
management computer said 'error in air/fuel mix'. The mechanic said that
wasn't so bad, in fact it wasn't a failure, but just a 'wrong carburation'.
But I think that this 'failure' is responsable of the loss of power of
today: maybe the spark plugs are dirty, due to a major percentage of fuel
during the 'failure'?
Bye Bye ;-)

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Antti - 28 Apr 2004 19:16 GMT
> Today, my 156 doesen't feel like other days: between 3500 and 5000 RPMs, the
> engine is something like 'strangled', it has some hesitation in giving
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> today: maybe the spark plugs are dirty, due to a major percentage of fuel
> during the 'failure'?
airmass meter MAF is common fault in V6 and symptons usually: hesitation
around 5000rpm (loses power like rev limiter).
Antti
Alfistagj - 28 Apr 2004 19:07 GMT
> airmass meter MAF is common fault in V6 and symptons usually: hesitation
> around 5000rpm (loses power like rev limiter).
>
> Antti
I must agree with Antti

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Jacopo - 28 Apr 2004 20:57 GMT
Thanks guys. But the power loss isn't so huge, and comes out only when I
push down the gas. Can be the airmass meter even?

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Alfistagj - 28 Apr 2004 21:56 GMT
> Thanks guys. But the power loss isn't so huge, and comes out only when I
> push down the gas. Can be the airmass meter even?
What's the weather like?
Rain/dry?
Air pressure?
Temperature?
How "new" is your air filter element?

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Jacopo - 29 Apr 2004 07:56 GMT
It was dry, but covered with low clouds, low pressure, about 70-75% humidity
and 27?C.
The air filter was changed with the oil @ 31000km. The car has now 33100km.

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Alfistagj - 29 Apr 2004 22:04 GMT
> It was dry, but covered with low clouds, low pressure, about 70-75% humidity
> and 27?C.
> The air filter was changed with the oil @ 31000km. The car has now 33100km.
BAD abient circumstances for fine power output!
Very low oxygen % due to combination of temp. en air pressure.
Could surely be the (a) reason.
High air pressure and low(er) temp is perfect.

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Ppelectron - 29 Apr 2004 09:24 GMT
>> Today, my 156 doesen't feel like other days: between 3500 and 5000 RPMs,
>the
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>
>Antti
The MAF fault on my 156 V6 caused a serious loss of power at 5000RPM (like a
rev limiter) but it did not improve as I put my foot down harder on the gas.
The only way to make the car go faster was to select a higher gear. The car
absolutely refused to do more than 5000RPM. The fault described by the original
poster sounds more like plugs or fuel IMHO.
Phil 156 V6 1998
Catman - 29 Apr 2004 07:28 GMT
> Today, my 156 doesen't feel like other days: between 3500 and 5000 RPMs,
> the engine is something like 'strangled', it has some hesitation in giving
> power... finally, a momentary lapse of power. (Pink Floyd enthusiast will
> understand me ;-)
Probably sounds better on guitar :)
> Monday the light 'engine failure' came up, stayed turned on for the whole
> day, then yesterday afternoon went out.
It's not gone into 'limp home' mode has it? IIRC that tends to run a very
rich mixture that might well give the symptoms you describe. OTOH I'd
expect it to be on the error list.

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Neuropean - 29 Apr 2004 08:43 GMT
Maybe you shouldn't fill the tank with kerosene after all...
;-)
Neuropean
Jacopo - 30 Apr 2004 08:34 GMT
> Maybe you shouldn't fill the tank with kerosene after all...
>
> ;-)
> Neuropean
I suppose that with kerosene will go... like an airplane ;-)
Oh, for the original post... now Mary runs well, maybe 'cause the outside
temp lowered. No more power loss at 5000rpm.

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