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> fog lights switch off when the ignition is turned off, and will not
>re-light unless deliberately turned on.
..a feature of the 156! Still doesn't stop some plonkers going to all
the *effort* of re-selecting them though. In any case, my front fogs
are totally useless - I once tried to light up a wall 10ft away in
darkness with them - made no real difference. Maybe the Italians have
an extra-special, cunning fog over there...

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Tom Boltwood - 28 Jun 2004 18:17 GMT
> From: Zathras <webnewsgroup@nospamthanks.hotmail.com>
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> darkness with them - made no real difference. Maybe the Italians have
> an extra-special, cunning fog over there...
I think front fog lights were only designed with the intention of irritating
other drivers. I have tried mine in every combination of conditions I can
think of and they have made absolutely zero difference. I've smashed one of
them now when I drove it into a fence post that was lying flat out in the
car park and I'm not going to bother getting it fixed.
Juhan Leemet - 28 Jun 2004 19:38 GMT
> <Snip>
>> fog lights switch off when the ignition is turned off, and will not
>>re-light unless deliberately turned on.
Battery saving feature, I would guess?
> ...my front fogs are totally useless - I once tried to light up a wall
> 10ft away in darkness with them - made no real difference. Maybe the
> Italians have an extra-special, cunning fog over there...
I think fog lights come into their own in thick fog, when regular
headlights make it seem like you're inside a milk bottle. They should let
you see something (more than nothing... like moonlight?). Unfortunately,
you do have to slow your speed, unless you're a bat, or have ESP.

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Catman - 29 Jun 2004 07:07 GMT
>> <Snip>
>>> fog lights switch off when the ignition is turned off, and will not
>>>re-light unless deliberately turned on.
>
> Battery saving feature, I would guess?
No. It stops iddiots from driving around with their got lights on (dazzling
the rest of us) for months cos they forget to turn them off.
>> ...my front fogs are totally useless - I once tried to light up a wall
>> 10ft away in darkness with them - made no real difference. Maybe the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> you see something (more than nothing... like moonlight?). Unfortunately,
> you do have to slow your speed, unless you're a bat, or have ESP.
I agree. They get used maybe once a year, but then they are useful

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Zathras - 29 Jun 2004 09:10 GMT
>>> <Snip>
>>>> fog lights switch off when the ignition is turned off, and will not
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>No. It stops iddiots from driving around with their got lights on (dazzling
>the rest of us) for months cos they forget to turn them off.
..nah! It's Italian electrical paranoia! Same as the ignition switch
without a key in kills almost everything so there's a special position
just so you can operate the side lights without the key in!!! ;-)
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Tom Boltwood - 29 Jun 2004 10:22 GMT
> From: Zathras <webnewsgroup@nospamthanks.hotmail.com>
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>
> <Snip>
Always loved that feature of Italian cars. I interrupted my Italian car
stream with a BMW once and it was about a year of flat batteries before I
got used to turning the lights off!
Catman - 29 Jun 2004 12:44 GMT
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>> fog lights switch off when the ignition is turned off, and will not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> without a key in kills almost everything so there's a special position
> just so you can operate the side lights without the key in!!! ;-)
Nah, that's parking lights. My bike has the same.

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Zathras - 29 Jun 2004 15:53 GMT
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>Nah, that's parking lights. My bike has the same.
Nah!..it's just the side lights..honest! Not even a choice over having
one side or the other on - I'd never use them overnight unless the
battery was pretty new and I was doing some distance driving too!!

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Catman - 29 Jun 2004 19:08 GMT
> <snip>
>>Nah, that's parking lights. My bike has the same.
>
> Nah!..it's just the side lights..honest! Not even a choice over having
> one side or the other on
Why would you need to? You should only park on the left hand side, so
you'd either have right or both sets on.
>- I'd never use them overnight unless the
> battery was pretty new and I was doing some distance driving too!!
Indeed not, but they are required by the highway code.

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Catman - 28 Jun 2004 19:51 GMT
> <Snip>
>> fog lights switch off when the ignition is turned off, and will not
>>re-light unless deliberately turned on.
>
> ..a feature of the 156! Still doesn't stop some plonkers going to all
> the *effort* of re-selecting them though.
W*nkers
> In any case, my front fogs
> are totally useless - I once tried to light up a wall 10ft away in
> darkness with them - made no real difference. Maybe the Italians have
> an extra-special, cunning fog over there...
You should have tried to light up the ground......

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Zathras - 28 Jun 2004 20:58 GMT
<Snip>
>> In any case, my front fogs
>> are totally useless - I once tried to light up a wall 10ft away in
>> darkness with them - made no real difference. Maybe the Italians have
>> an extra-special, cunning fog over there...
>>
>You should have tried to light up the ground......
..yes..the bit you can't see because it's below the bonnet/front
screen line was probably dimly lit! I've never found any car's fogs
better than dipped beam in fog since I first came across them in the
mid-80s.

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Catman - 28 Jun 2004 21:43 GMT
> <Snip>
>>> In any case, my front fogs
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> better than dipped beam in fog since I first came across them in the
> mid-80s.
Well, the ones I installed in the Giulietta work OK :)

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Zathras - 29 Jun 2004 09:07 GMT
<snip>
>> ..yes..the bit you can't see because it's below the bonnet/front
>> screen line was probably dimly lit! I've never found any car's fogs
>> better than dipped beam in fog since I first came across them in the
>> mid-80s.
>>
>Well, the ones I installed in the Giulietta work OK :)
..bet they're not the standard Giulietta fogs (if it had any)!

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Catman - 29 Jun 2004 12:45 GMT
> <snip>
>>> ..yes..the bit you can't see because it's below the bonnet/front
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> ..bet they're not the standard Giulietta fogs (if it had any)!
Very true :)

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Zathras - 29 Jun 2004 15:56 GMT
>> <snip>
>>>> ..yes..the bit you can't see because it's below the bonnet/front
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>Very true :)
Ah Ha! I knew it... <smug grin> :) Mind you, it's gratifying when you
beat the manufacturer.

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Pete - 28 Jun 2004 22:28 GMT
> I've never found any car's fogs
>better than dipped beam in fog since I first came across them in the
>mid-80s.
Yep! The best fog-lights are the one's on the back of the car in front :-)
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