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Pete - 28 Jul 2004 13:58 GMT

I thought that I would just share.

I can confirm that it is not a good idea to allow 'er to borrow your 156
and reverse it into a post :-(

The rear valance is well abraded, and the rear of the boot lid has a lovely
crease down it. The bodyshop estimate is £1840.00 to fix it.

Question:- if I drive 'er 147 off a cliff, should I even bother to jump out

Pete

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Catman - 28 Jul 2004 21:39 GMT

> I thought that I would just share.
>
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> The rear valance is well abraded, and the rear of the boot lid has a
> lovely crease down it. The bodyshop estimate is £1840.00 to fix it.

*ouch*

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Pete - 29 Jul 2004 21:06 GMT

>> I thought that I would just share.
>>
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>
>*ouch*

Another day, another estimate from a small independent £300ish
How amazing is that. One deals with insurers direct, one deals with
local car owners. Guess which was the enormous mark-up <g>

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Carl Farrington - 29 Jul 2004 22:42 GMT

>>> I thought that I would just share.
>>>
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> How amazing is that. One deals with insurers direct, one deals with
> local car owners. Guess which was the enormous mark-up <g>

that sounds too cheap. My Supra was rear ended, and the boot floor is gone
in a bit and the rear bumper slightly out of shape. Quote for that is ?1500
but it does have to have a new bumper, and a new back-panel.

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SteveH - 29 Jul 2004 22:55 GMT

> > Another day, another estimate from a small independent £300ish
> > How amazing is that. One deals with insurers direct, one deals with
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> in a bit and the rear bumper slightly out of shape. Quote for that is £1500
> but it does have to have a new bumper, and a new back-panel.

Sounds about right to me, depending on how many panels need replacing.

When I pranged my Cinq. - Fiat wanted close on £2k for the repairs -
although they were going to replace all the panels on the driver's side
of the car.

Got it done 'cash in hand' by a friend of a friend's son for £150.

To be fair, he didn't use any panels, but managed to pop out the worst
of the damage before applying a skim of filler and painting.

Was a proper job - only people who knew me knew it had been done,
IYSWIM.

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Carl Farrington - 30 Jul 2004 00:19 GMT

>>> Another day, another estimate from a small independent ?300ish
>>> How amazing is that. One deals with insurers direct, one deals with
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> Was a proper job - only people who knew me knew it had been done,
> IYSWIM.

yep. that is quite a price difference! When I dented the door and quarter
(the bit that meets with the door) on my GTV, I paid about ?450 to have it
fixed - filler job. Retail type bodyshop quoted about ?1800 to have new
panels.

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Pete - 30 Jul 2004 11:48 GMT

>Sounds about right to me, depending on how many panels need replacing.

None. That's the point. All that needs doing is the valance needs a bit of
hand sanding and spraying. It is only scuffed. There are no cracks or
deformaties.The rear of the boot lid has a dent between the badge and the
light cluster, which needs rolling out, and then respraying.

Pete

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MeatballTurbo - 30 Jul 2004 15:34 GMT

> Another day, another estimate from a small independent £300ish
> How amazing is that. One deals with insurers direct, one deals with
> local car owners. Guess which was the enormous mark-up <g>

That is the way they work.
A lot will ask when quoting, it is for you or for the insurance.

They know to mark up heavy for the insurance, because they will still be
way below the price paid to the "Approved Repairer". If they are doing
it for you, they will do it at the right price for the job, and you will
still get a proper job.

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Steve Drake - 16 Aug 2004 13:59 GMT

I learnt something about insurance this week, if you get it fixed by the
insurance company they will get the parts at list price and get the labour
discounted, once its all been fixed and they pay, you can then pay the money
back to the insurance company and retract the claim, saving your NCD and
even if you had it protected it still would go up, so you save that to.

Steve

> I thought that I would just share.
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> Pete

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Pete - 16 Aug 2004 21:08 GMT

>I learnt something about insurance this week, if you get it fixed by the
>insurance company they will get the parts at list price and get the labour
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>Steve

I will break with tradition and reply to your top post and say Thank You.
That's an interesting point. I will file that gem for others. Ta.

It will not apply in my case as the "mates rates" cost was only just over
£300.00 and the only part needed was paint. The insurers preferred ripoff
merchants wanted to charge for replacing the boot lid and valance when
neither were needed. The valance had no cracks or splits. Just a scuff that
needed buffing out and painting. The boot lid needed a small crease easing
out and then re-sprayed. A total con job. I have since met another unhappy
driver who visited their garage. They were silly enough to leave their car
there. It had a been rear-ended at traffic lights <ouch> The NEW roof was
not, but a bodged job on the old one. They failed to touch up a paint mark
made by suitcase mishap the year before <whoops>. The windscreen was not
properly bonded and popped out while the guy was driving the "fixed" car
home. Glad I did not use that garage.

Pete

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Tom Boltwood - 17 Aug 2004 11:44 GMT

> From: "Steve Drake" <Steve@_NOSPAM_.Drakey.co.uk>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.alfa-romeo
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> back to the insurance company and retract the claim, saving your NCD and
> even if you had it protected it still would go up, so you save that to.

I don't believe that it's worth it myself as every bodywork repair place I
have ever taken a car to on insurance has always quoted for lots that
doesn't need doing and was nothing to do with the accident. Insurance work
is a license to print money for them as it's never checked. It's certainly
interesting to know that if you repay them you get the money back, but IME
if you pay for it yourself in the first place it will cost you about 30% of
what it will cost the insurance company.

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