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Alfa 156 2.5 Vs 2.0

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Mark - 06 Aug 2004 17:22 GMT
Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
the 2.5 isn't that much quicker than the 2.0 TS. I am after a quickish
car sub 8secs to 60, but don't want to fork out the extra on a v6 if
its not really worth it. Is there any other differences other than the
engine? Also, if anyone has driven these some user opinions would be
nice.

Thanks
Hans de Heer - 06 Aug 2004 18:57 GMT
> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> engine? Also, if anyone has driven these some user opinions would be
> nice.

                           2.0TS       2.5V6
------------------------------------------------
topspeed                    216 km/h    230 km/h
acceleration 0-100 km/h     8,6 s       7,3 s

So you could say that the V6 is considerably faster than the 2.0TS. And of
course the V6 has the added bonus of great engine sound. Downside of the V6
is the considerably higher gas usage. Less miles per gallon, but more smiles
per gallon! :)

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Regards, Hans
Alfa Romeo 156 Selespeed - 1999
Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0V6 - 1997

SteveH - 06 Aug 2004 19:09 GMT
> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> engine? Also, if anyone has driven these some user opinions would be
> nice.

Unfortunately, I can't comment on the 156, but I have driven 155s with
both 2.5 and 2lt engines.

In my opinion, the 2lt is the one to go for as the V6 just doesn't
justify the extra weight it's carrying.

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Pete - 06 Aug 2004 21:14 GMT
>> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
>> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>In my opinion, the 2lt is the one to go for as the V6 just doesn't
>justify the extra weight it's carrying.

I can only say what appealed most to us was the one we bought. As this was
a personal purchase and not a company or lease car we were Very interested
in making the right choice. We spent an entire day at Alfa, driving ALL the
156 engine models, before buying. Seven hours of driving  and talking Alfas
and food and coffee thrown in. The drive home was a real let down. Why
can't they let you have a new car straight away <LOL>

Pete
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156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)

Antti - 07 Aug 2004 08:32 GMT
> > Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> > looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> In my opinion, the 2lt is the one to go for as the V6 just doesn't
> justify the extra weight it's carrying.

In 155 the power diffrence is only 13 hp but in 156 its 42hp and its
different story.
If you want faster 156 go for V6. Minus side is that bigger fuel comsuption.
But plus sides are better lasting cam belt and no variable cam variator
problems.
I have drove 155 with 2l 156 2l and 156 V6 engines. No change with 2.0
against V6.

Antti
156 V6
canard - 07 Aug 2004 09:37 GMT
> Unfortunately, I can't comment on the 156, but I have driven 155s with
> both 2.5 and 2lt engines.
>
> In my opinion, the 2lt is the one to go for as the V6 just doesn't
> justify the extra weight it's carrying.

Agreed: if you try and follow a 2litre car driven at its limit through
the turns you will find the V6 pushing off the road.  Cross-country,
I'd go for the 2litre.  For roads with no bends I'd go for the V6.

AndyM
Alfistagj - 07 Aug 2004 10:47 GMT
>  For roads with no bends I'd go for the V6.
>
> AndyM

Why follow a road with no bends; after 40000km's you'll end up at the same
position you left ;-(
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Golden Montreal 1428700 (1973/4)

canard - 11 Aug 2004 20:43 GMT
For roads with no bends I'd go for the V6.

> > AndyM
>
> Why follow a road with no bends; after 40000km's you'll end up at the same
> position you left ;-(

Good point, plus you would have to buy Alfa's snorkel kit for inlet
and exhaust; don't forget to specify how many fathoms you will be
operating at.
Antti - 07 Aug 2004 17:44 GMT
> > Unfortunately, I can't comment on the 156, but I have driven 155s with
> > both 2.5 and 2lt engines.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the turns you will find the V6 pushing off the road.  Cross-country,
> I'd go for the 2litre.  For roads with no bends I'd go for the V6.

if you drive ONLY at track days (very curvy tracks) and you are SKILLFULL
driver then go for 2.0 , in everyday use different roads 2 litres really
doesnt have any change. You just need to upgrade the original suspension
more stiffer.

Antti
Ppelectron - 07 Aug 2004 09:26 GMT
>Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
>looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Thanks

You need to test drive both the 2.0 and the 2.5 before you decide. Lot's of
salesmen told me there was not much difference, but then they only had 2.0
versions for sale. I test drove both and I can honestly say there is a huge
difference between them. If you are looking for a quick Alfa, you will fall in
love with the 2.5 for sure. I get about 28MPG out of my 2.5 and that is with a
mixture of motorway and town driving.

Don't forget, apart from getting the brilliant V6 engine, you also get a lovely
6-speed manual gearbox if you buy the 2.5. The only Alfa that I lust after more
than my 2.5 is the 156 GTA 3.2 V6. Maybe next time ....

Phil 156 2.5 V6 1998
SteveH - 07 Aug 2004 17:21 GMT
> >Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> >looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> love with the 2.5 for sure. I get about 28MPG out of my 2.5 and that is with a
> mixture of motorway and town driving.

Hint: the accelerator is the one on the right ;-)
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VW Golf GL Cabrio  -  Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
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Gareth Tuckwell - 11 Aug 2004 16:54 GMT
Get the newer 2.0 - the JTS it has 10% more power and is more efficient than
the 2.0 TS.

From memory, I believe 0-60 = 7.9 secs.

> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thanks
stuartalfa - 17 Aug 2004 17:26 GMT
> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thanks

I have had a 156 V6 24 valves of pleasure for 3 years.All I can say is
you have a chance to buy a Alfa Romeo with one of the most BEAUTIFUL &
AMAZING engines in the world.
With my modest driving skills of slow in fast out its just FANTASTIC
FUN.

Good luck
StuartAlfa
CIAO
George Graves - 17 Aug 2004 20:34 GMT
> > Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
> > looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that said
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> StuartAlfa
> CIAO

Hell, the sound alone of the V-6 is worth the price of admission. The
four sounds like - well - a four. The V-6 is GLORIOUS!

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Mogens Beltoft - 17 Aug 2004 22:19 GMT
>>> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
>>> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Hell, the sound alone of the V-6 is worth the price of admission. The
> four sounds like - well - a four. The V-6 is GLORIOUS!

I agree that the V6 is fabulous, but the 4 is something special too. It
sounds great, it revs willingly and it runs so smooth due to the ballancing
rods.

Just my 2 cents...

/Mogens
Ppelectron - 18 Aug 2004 00:56 GMT
>>>> Hi all, Im after a bit of advice as to what 156 to buy. I have been
>>>> looking at a 156 2.5 v6 veloce but I read somewhere recently that
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
>/Mogens

I would be very interested to know whether the original poster has test driven
the 2.0 and 2.5 and has any views?
Martin Smarda - 18 Aug 2004 10:06 GMT
> I agree that the V6 is fabulous, but the 4 is something special too. It
> sounds great, it revs willingly and it runs so smooth due to the ballancing
> rods.

I can?t agree to that, the V6 revs much easier, IMHO.
All the 4s I?ve driven (1.6, 2.0, 2.0JTS) felt strangled in some way and
didn?t deliver power too easily :-/

But maybe just bad luck.

In comparison, a 75TS I drove recently was hell of a drive.

Just _my_ 2 cents ;)

cheers, Martin
DesmaisonLCM - 19 Aug 2004 07:42 GMT
Dans l'article <2ogkhmFa72dnU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Martin Smarda"
<wuziprack@gmx.net>a écrit :

>I can´t agree to that, the V6 revs much easier, IMHO.
>All the 4s I´ve driven (1.6, 2.0, 2.0JTS) felt strangled in some way and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>cheers, Martin

Perhaps because the 75 2.0TS engine is an" old real full alfa" engine and the
156 is equiped with "new real fiat/alfa" engine?
Tom Boltwood - 19 Aug 2004 11:09 GMT
> From: desmaisonlcm@aol.comnospam (DesmaisonLCM)
> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.fr
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> Perhaps because the 75 2.0TS engine is an" old real full alfa" engine and the
> 156 is equiped with "new real fiat/alfa" engine?

I've got the old 8v TSpark in my 164, and I must say I much prefer it to the
16v whenever I've had one as a courtesy car or been for a test drive. I
haven't lived with the 16v for a period of time, so wouldn't be able to
comment too much, but on the whole, I think I prefer the 8v.
Martin Smarda - 19 Aug 2004 11:39 GMT
> Perhaps because the 75 2.0TS engine is an" old real full alfa" engine and the
> 156 is equiped with "new real fiat/alfa" engine?

One thing I wanted to imply... ;)

cheers, Martin
 
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