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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / August 2004

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Alfa 156 2.5 V6 Acceleration Delay

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James Ewen - 25 Aug 2004 14:14 GMT
Have a friend with a 156 (99 T reg) 2.5 V6 Veloce with which there is a
problem.  For days on end, a delay is experienced between pressing the
accelerator and getting any acceleration.  The delay is also experienced
upon changing gear.  This can be followed by a period of days where it all
works normally.  So, could be described as intermittent.

All ideas welcome ;-).

Rgds

Stuart (156 2.5 V6 Lusso)
Jacopo - 25 Aug 2004 19:32 GMT
It's an engine management computer malfunction. He has to check the
accelerator's CPU. No idea where it is located!

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Bolzano, Italia
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Sportwagon 2.5 V6 24V Distinctive

> Have a friend with a 156 (99 T reg) 2.5 V6 Veloce with which there is a
> problem.  For days on end, a delay is experienced between pressing the
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> Stuart (156 2.5 V6 Lusso)
Buzzardous Cross - 26 Aug 2004 10:56 GMT
I think your friend should read the following page:
http://www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk/diagnosticpage.html

The 2.5V6 uses a throttle position sensor and apparently this part can
be a bummer to diagnose.  I've also read somewhere about intermittent
problems when the sender can't send the throttle position correctly to
the ECU.

BC

> Have a friend with a 156 (99 T reg) 2.5 V6 Veloce with which there is a
> problem.  For days on end, a delay is experienced between pressing the
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> Stuart (156 2.5 V6 Lusso)
James Ewen - 26 Aug 2004 14:02 GMT
> http://www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk/diagnosticpage.html
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> BC

Yes, I had at look at that page and it seemed to suggest that it would
either work or it wouldn't.  I'll be running a diagnostic on the car later
today, so maybe there might be some sort of fault code registering.  It's
interesting to see what kind of faults mine might develop in future :O  .

Rgds

Stuart
James Ewen - 26 Aug 2004 20:48 GMT
> Yes, I had at look at that page and it seemed to suggest that it would
> either work or it wouldn't.  I'll be running a diagnostic on the car later
> today, so maybe there might be some sort of fault code registering.  It's
> interesting to see what kind of faults mine might develop in future :O  .

For information :

We found the cause (we think).  It would have helped if the fault was
consistent, but in this case it started working fine again a few hours
before the diagnostic check.  There was an error recorded as "Improbable
throttle position".  Throttle position at rest should be between 2%-9%
(actual value was 7%).  At full depression, between 63%-69% (actual value
62%).  So acceptable limits, and throttle take up was normal during a road
test.  Error was reset before commencing test and did not reappear.
Suggestion from auto electrician was that the connector block at the
accelerator may be dirty and sometimes the connection is not what it should
be thus causing the error above.  Possible fix is to clean connectors and
make sure of good fit.

Had the fault still been present at the time, we could have measured the
potentiometers etc... but chances are they are ok with or without the fault.

Tell you what though, I need to get myself a cable and some software for the
laptop, cos it's damn good!

Rgds

Stuart
Yoeri Gemeen - 27 Aug 2004 10:00 GMT
nothing like a good old accelerator pedal with a cable ^^

Joe
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AR 164 3.0 V6
and hopefully in the near future AR 90 2.6 V6

> > Yes, I had at look at that page and it seemed to suggest that it would
> > either work or it wouldn't.  I'll be running a diagnostic on the car later
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> Stuart
 
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