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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / August 2004

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ALfa 147 navteq - no gps signal !!!!!!! help!!!!!!!!

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pledge - 27 Aug 2004 12:34 GMT
my car currently thinks it is in the north sea - navteq have confirmed that
it is all registered properly.

is anyone aware of any problems re gps signals and how to regain them - i
currently get no signal nor any satelites !

any common places to check ?

any help would be greatly appreciated

sean
Simon C - 27 Aug 2004 13:30 GMT
> my car currently thinks it is in the north sea - navteq have confirmed that
> it is all registered properly.
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> sean

Hi Sean

I'm not sure if this will help, but I use TomTom navigator with an iPaq and
recently was told to update the GPS firmware.

Not sure why, but it may be something to do with satelitte positions,
upgrades or something.

It may be worth contacting your dealer

Simon C
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Catman - 27 Aug 2004 13:47 GMT
>> my car currently thinks it is in the north sea - navteq have confirmed
> that
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>
> I'm not sure if this will help, but I use TomTom navigator with an iPaq

Much rocking, have one myself

> and recently was told to update the GPS firmware.

I wasn't

> Not sure why, but it may be something to do with satelitte positions,
> upgrades or something.

Doubt it.  Mine's fine

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Simon C - 27 Aug 2004 15:54 GMT
> > Not sure why, but it may be something to do with satelitte positions,
> > upgrades or something.
>
> Doubt it.  Mine's fine

I have the iPaq 1940 and use an NMEA 0183v2 compatible bluetooth gps device.
Perhaps the upgrade (now running GPS v.3.02) was to do with that
combination?!?!?

Much rocking indeed. I use CheckPOInt to warn me of potential hazards ahead
such as cameras, little chefs, mickey d's, etc (and believe, the latter are
hazards!)

Simon C
Catman - 27 Aug 2004 18:18 GMT
>> > Not sure why, but it may be something to do with satelitte positions,
>> > upgrades or something.
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> device. Perhaps the upgrade (now running GPS v.3.02) was to do with that
> combination?!?!?

Maybe.  mine is H220 with the tomtom unit

> Much rocking indeed. I use CheckPOInt to warn me of potential hazards
> ahead such as cameras, little chefs, mickey d's, etc (and believe, the
> latter are hazards!)

Got that right :)
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Tom Boltwood - 27 Aug 2004 16:10 GMT
> From: "pledge" <sean@riverfinance.com>
> Organization: www.talkaboutautos.com
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>
> sean

I did GPS as part of my coastal skipper's certificate. I can't remember the
details, but IIRC you have to have a signal from at least 3 satellites from
a possible 5, if it can't see at least 3 (which does happen from time to
time, for whatever reason) then it will show nothing. Satellites do break
from time to time and, of course, if the US decides it doesn't want a part
of the world to have GPS coverage then you ain't getting it.
Catman - 27 Aug 2004 18:20 GMT
>> From: "pledge" <sean@riverfinance.com>
>> Organization: www.talkaboutautos.com
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> the details, but IIRC you have to have a signal from at least 3 satellites
> from a possible 5,

5 gives you altitude as well

>if it can't see at least 3 (which does happen from time
> to time, for whatever reason) then it will show nothing. Satellites do
> break from time to time and, of course, if the US decides it doesn't want
> a part of the world to have GPS coverage then you ain't getting it.

Yebbut givent that he's in the UK, as am I the odds of him not being able
to see any, and me seeing (quick check) 8 are, to be blunt, slim.

Something's wrong either with his hardware or the setup thereof.
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pledge - 28 Aug 2004 10:01 GMT
Thankyou all for your replies.

the alfa dealership have finally replied and are now saying that :

1) i need to get the software rebooting
2) as my car is an 02 plate, it will cost 1 hours labour (100 inc vat )!-
as i have had car only since march and only used the sat nav a few dozen
times - any thoughts;
a) could any non alfa dealers do it ?
b) how strong is my bartering arm ? as i am not used to this at all

once again, any help would really be appreciated

sean
Alfistagj - 28 Aug 2004 10:45 GMT
get a quote from another dealership!
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> Thankyou all for your replies.
>
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> sean
Catman - 28 Aug 2004 14:46 GMT
> Thankyou all for your replies.
>
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>
> sean
In the UK, I'd claim not fit for purpose under the sale of goods act and
demand that they sort it FOC
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