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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / October 2004How safe is an AR 166
How safe are the AR 166's in a crash - lets say in a drivers side head on impact at 40mph , does the AR 166 have effective crumple zones or is the driver likely to be wearing the break pedals in his chest !! Generally how are they rated . Cheers DJ > How safe are the AR 166's in a crash - lets say in a drivers side head on > impact at 40mph , does the AR 166 have effective crumple zones or is the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > DJ Wow, safety not an issue ! that surprises me a little. Cheers >> How safe are the AR 166's in a crash - lets say in a drivers side head on >> impact at 40mph , does the AR 166 have effective crumple zones or is the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Wow, safety not an issue ! that surprises me a little. Why? How many Alfas have been through NCAP? Why? The basic rule of thumb is *NEVER* crash an Alfa. If I crash my Alfa I will die. This is a *strong* incentive to drive carefully and avoid accidents. If you can't drive carefully and avoid accidents then get a car that offers better protection - there are plenty out there. Once purchased, you just have to avoid lorries, busses, high cliffs, deep water and trees/sign posts which will make mincemeat out of any car. Don't read on if you're eating but, another fine and rapid way to die in any car is, driving into a barbed wire fence at an angle (trust me..I've seen the photos). Anyone for football?...  SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!) > >> How safe are the AR 166's in a crash - lets say in a drivers side head on > >> impact at 40mph , does the AR 166 have effective crumple zones or is the [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > 'Oil' be seeing you.. > (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!) It's not me, it's those other manics on the road that I worry about . <snip> >It's not me, it's those other manics on the road that I worry about . A deeply unconvincing reply. Anybody that hits *you* will probably say the same thing. The trick is to anticipate other road users actions and properly read the road ahead. It's also possible to be trained to a drive at a higher safety level. I do/did all this rather than buy a Volvo. YMMV. SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!) ><snip> >>It's not me, it's those other manics on the road that I worry about . [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the road ahead. It's also possible to be trained to a drive at a >higher safety level. I do/did all this rather than buy a Volvo. YMMV. There will always be a chance you could be involved in an accident that you could do nothing about. I had a psycho driver shoot out from a side road onto a main road in front of me with no warning. They were going fast and I didn't even have time to brake. Wrote my audi off completely. It is unrealistic to assume that you would be able to miss all the nutters on the roads. Look in the Daily Mail today (UK) for a picture of a nutter on the M4 motorway driving up the middle of a carriageway in rush hour in the wrong direction. The picture speaks for itself. >><snip> >>>It's not me, it's those other manics on the road that I worry about . [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >main road in front of me with no warning. They were going fast and I didn't >even have time to brake. Could you have anticipated the side road (there's usually signs or some advance warning for these)? If so, you could have anticipated someone coming out of it. Were you *fully* alert at the time? I don't mean this as an insult but many drivers drive in a semi-daze and you have said that a car came out in front of you but you were unable to brake. I've been in a similar situation to this (before my anticipation skills were fine tuned, or I owned an Alfa) and had to do a full-on emergency stop to avoid someone coming out a side street. Unfortunately, the hooligan that tried to T-Bone me never saw me as ABS is silent and I had no chance to take a hand off the wheel to hit the horn. I just missed hitting him. > Wrote my audi off completely. ! >It is unrealistic to >assume that you would be able to miss all the nutters on the roads. I've managed - and I'm not young either (sadly)! >Look in the >Daily Mail today (UK) for a picture of a nutter on the M4 motorway driving up >the middle of a carriageway in rush hour in the wrong direction. The picture >speaks for itself. It's very dramatic but just because there are lunatics on the road doesn't automatically mean good drivers will crash into them. If you don't leave enough space in front of your car so you can react and avoid accidents you get what you deserve in this kind of situation. Almost all drivers I see on the roads these days are poor drivers and most of these will have an incredible, unfounded self belief that they are good drivers. That is my Road Rage theory too! SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!) > It's very dramatic but just because there are lunatics on the road > doesn't automatically mean good drivers will crash into them. If you > don't leave enough space in front of your car so you can react and > avoid accidents you get what you deserve in this kind of situation. I am sure the *real* bikers here will comment but I discovered teenage 125s at the tender age of 28 and I reckon it did wonders for my concentration levels driving a car. With the mobile entertainment centres commonly known as cars these days the sheer raw nature of a motorbike really tunes the mind to concentrate, and IMHO sticks. Cheers Tony > > It's very dramatic but just because there are lunatics on the road > > doesn't automatically mean good drivers will crash into them. If you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > sheer raw nature of a motorbike really tunes the mind to concentrate, and > IMHO sticks. I shudder at the thought of driving a lot of modern cars - they're so 'safe' and detatched from what's actually going on at the wheels I just couldn't drive one. The 155 is bad enough! However, that might be because I ride a 'real' bike, I'm sure most people mistake feedback for a crude and unrefined car. SignatureSteve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> > It's very dramatic but just because there are lunatics on the road >> > doesn't automatically mean good drivers will crash into them. If you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > However, that might be because I ride a 'real' bike, I'm sure most > people mistake feedback for a crude and unrefined car. I reckon you are absolutley right. As you know I had the pleasure of a Focus not so long ago. What a total, and utter pile of shite. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 2.0 TS Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >> It's very dramatic but just because there are lunatics on the road >> doesn't automatically mean good drivers will crash into them. If you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 125s at the tender age of 28 and I reckon it did wonders for my > concentration levels driving a car. Enhanced concentrations is the only way to survive on a 125. > With the mobile entertainment centres commonly known as cars these days > the sheer raw nature of a motorbike really tunes the mind to concentrate, > and IMHO sticks. One would like to think so. Certainly seems to have done for me but what about london cabbies? SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 2.0 TS Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk > what about london cabbies? Good point!..what category do you put any Cabbie in..above or below lunatic level? SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!) >> what about london cabbies? > > Good point!..what category do you put any Cabbie in..above or below > lunatic level? Personally, I put them in 'avoid like the plague' ;) SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 2.0 TS Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >> It's very dramatic but just because there are lunatics on the road >> doesn't automatically mean good drivers will crash into them. If you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >sheer raw nature of a motorbike really tunes the mind to concentrate, and >IMHO sticks. Not half. I thought that bigger bikes made you concentrate too though..more power..more speed. Stick you into a tree quicker sort of stuff. With smaller bikes the problem is not enough power! For me, I don't have the balls for a bike..I'd kill myself on one. ;-) SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!) > Not half. I thought that bigger bikes made you concentrate too > though..more power..more speed. Stick you into a tree quicker sort of > stuff. With smaller bikes the problem is not enough power! For me, I > don't have the balls for a bike..I'd kill myself on one. ;-) I loved the flat out nature of a 125 - probably the closest you can get to being really committed on public roads. I felt I would want to do the same on anything bigger and like you decided it was too crazy. The ability to overtake even on a 125 compared with cars is amazing - I think I would turn into a monster on a decent bike - there is something about donning a helmet and revving to 10000 rpm that just says race to me - which is probably a bad thing... |
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