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Dom - 24 May 2005 00:27 GMT
SteveH has a quote...

'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'

Seems Mr Clarkson agree's with you !!!

I've heard him twice this week big up the alfa. Top Gear New series >
Berrara (trouser incident) and also when he we thumb-ing up the new
Transport Minister saying he drove an Alfa 156. In addition he also bigged
up the Alfa on a previous version of Top Gear which was on the History
Channel or sumthin early in Sunday morning !!!

I'm quite surprised !!!
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Catman - 24 May 2005 07:01 GMT
> SteveH has a quote...
>
> 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'

Well, Steve lifted it form an episode of Top Gear IIRC.

> Seems Mr Clarkson agree's with you !!!

He does like his Alfas.
> I've heard him twice this week big up the alfa. Top Gear New series >
> Berrara (trouser incident) and also when he we thumb-ing up the new
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I'm quite surprised !!!

Why?  Don't you drive one?
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MarkK - 24 May 2005 22:45 GMT
> > SteveH has a quote...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> > Seems Mr Clarkson agree's with you !!!

You do remember correctly, and Clarkson himself said it when interviewing
actor Alan Davies of Jonathan Creek fame, who had a 147 at the time.

Mark
Catman - 25 May 2005 06:35 GMT
>> > SteveH has a quote...
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You do remember correctly, and Clarkson himself said it when interviewing
> actor Alan Davies of Jonathan Creek fame, who had a 147 at the time.

Ahh, yes

Good to see you around, Mark.  You going to Northants this year?
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MarkK - 26 May 2005 23:39 GMT
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> Good to see you around, Mark.  You going to Northants this year?

Good to see you around, too :-). Maybe - more likely if the weather's good.

Cheers,

Mark
Catman - 27 May 2005 06:42 GMT
> "Catman" <catman@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:42940eb1$0$569
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> Good to see you around, too :-). Maybe - more likely if the weather's
> good.

Wuss ;)
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Zathras - 25 May 2005 09:07 GMT
>SteveH has a quote...
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>I'm quite surprised !!!

Mr Clarkson is a well known long term Alfa fan. I suppose it fits in
with his 'devil may care', 'do something a little different from the
norm' attitude.

IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
best, if not the best, engines ever. Beating the likes of Ferrari etc.

I've seen him in group reviews disagree with his fellow reviewers and
say he prefers the Alfa to the much *better* and *more sensible*
opposition.

I'd go as far as suggest that, if it weren't for the bias restrictions
of his job, he'd be an honorary Alfisti.

He's still a complete nutter so he'd be quite at home in this NG!  ;-)

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SteveH - 25 May 2005 10:23 GMT
> >SteveH has a quote...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
> best, if not the best, engines ever. Beating the likes of Ferrari etc.

In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
to the conclusion that the Golf was faster, better built, handled better
and was marginally cheaper..... but they'd still buy the Alfa if it was
their own money.
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Zathras - 25 May 2005 11:15 GMT
<snip>
>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
>to the conclusion that the Golf was faster, better built, handled better
>and was marginally cheaper..... but they'd still buy the Alfa if it was
>their own money.

Having a VW in the driveway says little..having an Alfa Romeo in the
driveway says so much more really..

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SteveH - 25 May 2005 11:21 GMT
> <snip>
> >In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Having a VW in the driveway says little..having an Alfa Romeo in the
> driveway says so much more really..

<hangs head in shame>

I have both.

'My' car is a Passat 1.8 Turbo
'Her' car is a 156.

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Zathras - 25 May 2005 11:32 GMT
<snip>
>> Having a VW in the driveway says little..having an Alfa Romeo in the
>> driveway says so much more really..
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>'My' car is a Passat 1.8 Turbo
>'Her' car is a 156.

No need to hang anything in shame! It about which car stirs the
soul..it's not about good or bad, better or worse..

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Catman - 25 May 2005 12:06 GMT
> <snip>
>>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Having a VW in the driveway says little..having an Alfa Romeo in the
> driveway says so much more really..

What does an utterly knackered *looking* Citroen diesel say? :)
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Zathras - 25 May 2005 12:54 GMT
>> <snip>
>>>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>What does an utterly knackered *looking* Citroen diesel say? :)

Skint!

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Catman - 25 May 2005 13:04 GMT
>>> <snip>
>>>>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Skint!

LOL

I shall tell SWMBO :>
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Zathras - 25 May 2005 13:41 GMT
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>I shall tell SWMBO :>

Jeeps..change that to *ruthlessly efficient with finance*..please!

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Catman - 25 May 2005 13:57 GMT
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jeeps..change that to *ruthlessly efficient with finance*..please!

Heh.  I'm still hoping to see it parked next to the Sprint one day
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George Graves - 25 May 2005 22:09 GMT
> > <snip>
> >>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> What does an utterly knackered *looking* Citroen diesel say? :)

Makes me want to ask if you wear a beret and smoke Gauloise as well. :-)

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Catman - 25 May 2005 22:29 GMT
>> > <snip>
>> >>In the head to head between the Alfa 147GTA and the Golf R32 they came
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Makes me want to ask if you wear a beret and smoke Gauloise as well. :-)

You know, I might have done, once ;)

It's Rachels' commuter.  Leaves it in the station car park all day.  Is not
too worried if it's not there when she comes back (which happened with her
shite old Metro)
OTOH if her (nearly) mint Sprint went walkies.................
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Catman - 25 May 2005 12:05 GMT
>>SteveH has a quote...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
> best, if not the best, engines ever. Beating the likes of Ferrari etc.

Indeed he did. Specifically it was in a red GTV6
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Zathras - 25 May 2005 12:59 GMT
<snip>
>> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
>> best, if not the best, engines ever. Beating the likes of Ferrari etc.
>
>Indeed he did. Specifically it was in a red GTV6

Yes that sounds right. I wasn't going to show off my old Alfa
ignorance by saying which car it was and getting it wrong! Can you
remember if it actually won?

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Catman - 25 May 2005 13:06 GMT
> <snip>
>>> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> ignorance by saying which car it was and getting it wrong! Can you
> remember if it actually won?

I'm thinking of an episode (IIRC) of Clarkson on cars.  It wasn't a
competition as such, but it was definitley his favourite engine of the cars
he was driving (which didn't include a Ferrari, again IIRC) but he did say
it was his favourite engine ever,
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Halmyre - 25 May 2005 13:35 GMT
>><snip>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> he was driving (which didn't include a Ferrari, again IIRC) but he did say
> it was his favourite engine ever,

Clarkson also has a book out, I think it's called "I Know You Got Soul",
in which he picks the Alfa Romeo 166 as most 'soulful' car.

Halmyre
Zathras - 25 May 2005 13:47 GMT
>> <snip>
>>>> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>he was driving (which didn't include a Ferrari, again IIRC) but he did say
>it was his favourite engine ever,

I think you're mostly right but I was sure there was a Ferrari in
there too. In fact, I remember thinking *game over..there's a Ferrari
in the mix* then *wow - an Alfa beat a Ferrari!*

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Catman - 25 May 2005 13:57 GMT
>>> <snip>
>>>>> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> there too. In fact, I remember thinking *game over..there's a Ferrari
> in the mix* then *wow - an Alfa beat a Ferrari!*

I shall watch for it again on UK Gold.  It was some time back :)
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George Graves - 25 May 2005 22:07 GMT
> >SteveH has a quote...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> IIRC, some time ago he rated an old Alfa 3.0 litre V6 as one of the
> best, if not the best, engines ever. Beating the likes of Ferrari etc.

He's mostly right you know. The Alfa 3.0 liter V-6, either 12 or
24-valve versions is one of the world's GREAT sports car engines. It's
willing, practically bulletproof, has no real vices, sounds better than
any engine has a right to sound and with very little fiddling can be
made to produce prodigious amounts of BHP. My GTV-6 3.0 12-valve, for
instance has been dyno's at 232 BHP @ 6200 RPM and it redlines at 7200!
I get consistent O-100 KPH times of just under 6 seconds, and my top
speed (at 7.2K) should be about 257 KPH (can't say for sure. My 150 MPH
speedo is long buried at the top before the car stops pulling).  But is
the engine  really better than a Ferrari V-12? Well, I dunno about that,
but it is certainly better in some ways (like valve guides that don't
wear-out in 5000 miles). In other ways, though, its hard to beat the
Columbo 3-liter V-12 - especially sporting a brace of 6-2 bbl Webers.

> I've seen him in group reviews disagree with his fellow reviewers and
> say he prefers the Alfa to the much *better* and *more sensible*
> opposition.

> I'd go as far as suggest that, if it weren't for the bias restrictions
> of his job, he'd be an honorary Alfisti.
>
> He's still a complete nutter so he'd be quite at home in this NG!  ;-)

Sounds like my kind of guy! What about Tiff Needell and Viki
Butler-Henderson? I saw her test an Alfa 156 GTA (when Speed TV was
running the series here in the USA) and she looked like the cat that ate
the cream. She couldn't keep the smile off her face no matter how hard
she tried to play "professional." She was obviously enjoying the hell
out of the car (and for an Avant Traction, it is very NICE). Then
there's Alain DeCadenet. A dyed-in-the-wool Alfisti if ever there was
one.

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