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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / July 2005

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Simon C - 26 Jul 2005 11:31 GMT
Hi all

I have a few questions about my 2002 156.

1. Are the rear seats ISOFIX compatible?
2. I am approaching 36,000 miles, which seems to be the point at which many
NGroupies recommend replacing the cambelt. Does this apply to the 2.4JTD as
well as the petrol engined models and should I therefore book it in ASAP?
3. I need to replace the headlight bulb...again! The last time I did it, I
nearly ripped my hand off in the process. Is there an easier way (apart from
getting someone else to do it)?

I look forward to your responses

Regards
Simon C
156 2.4JTD V1 (2002)
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FoXje - 26 Jul 2005 20:13 GMT
> 1. Are the rear seats ISOFIX compatible?

My 156 from 98 does not have ISOFIX, you should be able to mount an
ISOFIX seat the normal way though.

FoXje
Steven Spits - 27 Jul 2005 11:04 GMT
> 2. I am approaching 36,000 miles, which seems to be the point at which
> many
> NGroupies recommend replacing the cambelt. Does this apply to the 2.4JTD
> as
> well as the petrol engined models and should I therefore book it in ASAP?

The official (at least in Belgium) interval is 120.000 km, however my dealer
has replaced the cambelt at 100.000 (60k miles), to be "on the safe side".

There were a couple of threads about cambelt failures on JTD's not so long
ago. You may try google. IIRC, there was no-one who reported a snapped belt.

> 3. I need to replace the headlight bulb...again! The last time I did it, I
> nearly ripped my hand off in the process. Is there an easier way (apart
> from
> getting someone else to do it)?

Not that I know of :-)

I remember we both bought our 156 2.4 more or less at the same time. So how
is your 156 doing?

Steven

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Simon C - 27 Jul 2005 14:39 GMT
"Steven Spits"  wrote in message

> I remember we both bought our 156 2.4 more or less at the same time. So how
> is your 156 doing?

Good thanks. Apart form all the problems with the front end suspension
rebuild at about 10k miles and replacement antiroll bar and starter motor at
22k miles and replacement antiroll bar bushes about two weeks ago...oh, and
I've just had to replace the front discs at 32k miles.

I have come to this theory on the JTD. AR designed a fantastic car around
its 1.8/2.0 petrol units and then put this wonderful lump of diesel in it
without tweaking any of the suspensions, brakes, etc. Result...a great
responsive ride that wears out after 20-30k miles.

Just my opinion, but it has not tarnished the way I look and love the car.

How's about yours? Are you looking at the new 159?

Regards
Simon
Steven Spits - 28 Jul 2005 08:17 GMT
> I have come to this theory on the JTD. AR designed a fantastic car around
> its 1.8/2.0 petrol units and then put this wonderful lump of diesel in it
> without tweaking any of the suspensions, brakes, etc. Result...a great
> responsive ride that wears out after 20-30k miles.

Not so sure about the 1.9, but the 2.4 definatly is too heavy, agreed!

New front discs at 32k miles is way to soon, I'm still on my first set all
around.

> How's about yours? Are you looking at the new 159?

After the initial problems, mainly suspension problems like yours and a
faulty alternator, the car has been doing very good. 100.000 km on the clock
now. The only thing that kept coming back is the airbag warning light. But
the last 40.000 km were trouble free, fingers crossed.

I have been to Italy 3 times in the last two years, no problem whatsoever.
On the last trips, however, the brake pads were totally gone. I checked them
before leaving, but the outer pads (the ones I could check) were in much
better shape the the inner pads. I think the Alfa is to blame: she wanted to
feel the hands of a genuine Italian mechanic again... As a sidenote: the
(official Alfa-) garage where I ended up was *very* friendly and *very*
cheap. Italians are very proud of their cars, and foreigners driving with
their cars are treated with respect.

As for the 159, yes, it's looking very nice!!! Even better than the 156
IMHO. My 156 is a company car for 5 years. That means I'll be in the market
again in 2007. A year after a bought the 156, I got my first kid. Now, with
the second on the way, I really wished I bought the sportswagon instead of
the sedan! So I don't know what 2007 will bring, but it's gotta be BIG.

Steven

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Simon C - 28 Jul 2005 09:40 GMT
"Steven Spits"  wrote in message

> As for the 159, yes, it's looking very nice!!! Even better than the 156
> IMHO. My 156 is a company car for 5 years. That means I'll be in the market
> again in 2007. A year after a bought the 156, I got my first kid. Now, with
> the second on the way, I really wished I bought the sportswagon instead of
> the sedan! So I don't know what 2007 will bring, but it's gotta be BIG.

Mine is up for renewal in October 2006 and, as you said, the 159 is looking
very nice.

Congratulations on your second arrival...I have my first child on the way,
hence my request for info on ISOFIX. I therefore think the next one will
have to be the Sportwagon and, if they have them in the UK by then, the Q4.
I think the combination of the new 2.4 JTD and the Q4 system will make for
an excellent car.

Cheers
Simon

P.S. The airbag light...what would I do if I didn't have an airbag light to
look at every day. The dealer keeps replacing something to do with the
curtain airbags, which works for about three days!!!
Steven Spits - 28 Jul 2005 09:52 GMT
> Mine is up for renewal in October 2006 and, as you said, the 159 is
> looking
> very nice.

Reviews are very promising. I would certainly like the extra space inside.
And you can't beat the looks of the car!

> Congratulations on your second arrival...I have my first child on the way,
> hence my request for info on ISOFIX. I therefore think the next one will
> have to be the Sportwagon and, if they have them in the UK by then, the
> Q4.
> I think the combination of the new 2.4 JTD and the Q4 system will make for
> an excellent car.

The new 2.4 20V will probably be a blast to drive!

It's amazing how those litle kids demand SO much space. You can take my word
for it: the smaller the child, the more space you'll need when going
somewhere... Hence my sportswagon-wish.

I haven't seen pictures of the 159 SW, you?

> P.S. The airbag light...what would I do if I didn't have an airbag light
> to
> look at every day. The dealer keeps replacing something to do with the
> curtain airbags, which works for about three days!!!

:-(   Guess I really shouldn't complain than...

Plan a trip to Italy, and have have it fixed there!

Steven

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Simon C - 28 Jul 2005 10:06 GMT
> I haven't seen pictures of the 159 SW, you?

I do have a very small pic if you want me to email it?
Simon C - 28 Jul 2005 10:14 GMT
You can also try this link:

http://www.alfisti.net/alfa-forum/showthread.php?t=39674
Steven Spits - 28 Jul 2005 10:44 GMT
> You can also try this link:
>
> http://www.alfisti.net/alfa-forum/showthread.php?t=39674

Wooohooo!!! Looks *very* promising!!!

Steven

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Simon C - 28 Jul 2005 11:02 GMT
Yeah, even the saloon gets split/fold rear seats, which is a bonus
Simon C - 27 Jul 2005 16:51 GMT
"Steven Spits" wrote in message...
> The official (at least in Belgium) interval is 120.000 km, however my dealer
> has replaced the cambelt at 100.000 (60k miles), to be "on the safe side".

The official word from my new dealer is that they check the wear and tension
of the belt at the 36k mile service and if it needs replacing, they do so.
They also replace the belt at 72k miles regardless of whether it was done at
36k miles.

Happy motoring

Simon
 
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