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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / October 2005

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HELP - smoke !

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NC - 25 Oct 2005 11:44 GMT
All,
For about 4 weeks I've been getting a ploom of smoke raising out of the
bonnet between the bonnet and the driver side wing. This does not happen
all of the time, but tends to be when I've been quite hard on the brakes
(although when I am hard on the brakes, its because I've been hard on
the engine...! so may not be due to brakes).
Had the brakes stripped down by Desira this morning (they thought it was
due to them overheating / ceasing), but it did it again on the way back
into work.

Its been happening ever since it had the 60k service (incl new plugs and
cambelt/tensioner/variator) done by Jamie in Royston.
I'm passing his way tomorrow so will be dropping in for him to have a look.

Any thoughts what this might be due to ?? Smoke smells like oily
burning. Could it be linked to the service - seems to be a strange
coincidence that it started happening right at that time.....

(2000 W Reg ALfa 156 2.0 Veloce)
Catman - 25 Oct 2005 13:11 GMT
> All,
> For about 4 weeks I've been getting a ploom of smoke raising out of the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> burning. Could it be linked to the service - seems to be a strange
> coincidence that it started happening right at that time.....

Was there a fluid change involved at all?  Could be that some seeped onto
the manifold and burns when things get really hot?
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NC - 25 Oct 2005 14:14 GMT
> Was there a fluid change involved at all?  Could be that some seeped onto
> the manifold and burns when things get really hot?

he would have done the 'usual' for the 60k service - oil change, maybe
others (I'm not expert)

Desira changed the sump plug this morning as Jamie had put the wrong one
in - I was leaking a little oil. Is it possible that I could have had
some oil 'left over' from the leak that has dripped onto something hot ??
Catman - 25 Oct 2005 19:42 GMT
>> Was there a fluid change involved at all?  Could be that some seeped onto
>> the manifold and burns when things get really hot?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> in - I was leaking a little oil. Is it possible that I could have had
> some oil 'left over' from the leak that has dripped onto something hot ??

Possible, especially at speed.

I'm surprised that he fitted the wrong sump plug though.  I suspect it was
one of his minions.......

I'd also suspect that they put the same plug in that came out........
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Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 156 TS S2
Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

Richard - 26 Oct 2005 10:10 GMT
I can't see how oil can drop from the sump plug onto anything else as the
sump is invariably at the lowest point on the engine.

>>> Was there a fluid change involved at all?  Could be that some seeped
>>> onto
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> I'd also suspect that they put the same plug in that came out........
Catman - 26 Oct 2005 13:22 GMT
> I can't see how oil can drop from the sump plug onto anything else as the
> sump is invariably at the lowest point on the engine.

Indeed, but it might well get *blown* back onto something hot.  I know this
is the case with my Giulietta, the Sprint and the SO's SOC.  TBH I've not
crawled under at 156 to look at the exact situation.

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Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 156 TS S2
Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

NC - 26 Oct 2005 21:02 GMT
>>I can't see how oil can drop from the sump plug onto anything else as the
>>sump is invariably at the lowest point on the engine.
>
> Indeed, but it might well get *blown* back onto something hot.  I know this
> is the case with my Giulietta, the Sprint and the SO's SOC.  TBH I've not
> crawled under at 156 to look at the exact situation.

well... after the plug was chnaged yesterday, and a long run today, I've
not had a repeat smoking. Fingers crossed it'll be gone for good....
 
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