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Guilloume - 14 Apr 2006 18:32 GMT

wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

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Stephen Poley - 14 Apr 2006 19:33 GMT

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:32:31 +0200, "Guilloume" <guilloume7@hotmail.com>
wrote (in one of the less-frequently encountered languages in this
group):

>wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

Well ... maybe you could tell us what characteristics you think this
33-successor would have to share with the 33 for it to be counted as
genuine?

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Bert Kanters - 14 Apr 2006 19:36 GMT

Eerst komt er een nieuwe Alfasud, de opvolger daarvan zal de nieuwe 33 zijn.

> wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

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BravoEchoRomeoRomeoYankee - 14 Apr 2006 20:09 GMT

English please ... this is NOT an NL newsgroup, as I was wondering this
afternoon when you mentioned it.

;-)

> wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

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Catman - 14 Apr 2006 20:17 GMT

> English please ... this is NOT an NL newsgroup, as I was wondering this
> afternoon when you mentioned it.
>
> ;-)

Well, tehcnically it's an international group, but I'll be damned if I know
what he's on about :)

>> wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

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BravoEchoRomeoRomeoYankee - 14 Apr 2006 20:27 GMT

Well, I think he is a confused BMW driver, a bit lost in cyberspace,
accidentally entered the wrong newsgroup and desperately looking for some
professional help.

Please help the poor man.

LOL

>> English please ... this is NOT an NL newsgroup, as I was wondering this
>> afternoon when you mentioned it.
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>
>>> wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

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Guilloume - 14 Apr 2006 21:41 GMT

You are right BravoEchoRomeoRomeoYankee,
just foulling around,

and checking if this is a 'real' newgroup:

can someone help you, with your "lightning" problem,
like I told you about the fuses some years ago,
there must be drivers with same "lightning" problems....... ;-)

> Well, I think he is a confused BMW driver, a bit lost in cyberspace,
> accidentally entered the wrong newsgroup and desperately looking for some
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>>
>>>> wanneer komt er eindelijk eens een echte opvolger voor de 33?

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Zathras - 14 Apr 2006 22:11 GMT

<snip>

> I'll be damned if I know what he's on about :)

<helpful?>

http://www.freetranslation.com

says:

Does when come there finally once a real successor for the 33?

or

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish

says

when does a real continuator for 33 come there at last once?

*my* translation(!)

When will there finally be a real successor to the 33?

</helpful?>

Now you're going to tell me "I knew all that..but I'm damned if I know
what he's on about!" :-(

As someone who knows little about (too young..ahem..er..cough..) the
33, would saying *a 2 door 147 is as close as it gets* likely start a
flame war (ducks)..

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Catman - 14 Apr 2006 22:32 GMT

> <snip>
>> I'll be damned if I know what he's on about :)
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> 33, would saying *a 2 door 147 is as close as it gets* likely start a
> flame war (ducks)..

/me passes nomex ;)

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Zathras - 14 Apr 2006 23:16 GMT

>/me passes nomex ;)

You what?? Let's see..Nomex (brand name of a flame retardant meta-
aramid material from DuPont). Ahh..I see, *you've passed Kevlar?!*
Maybe you've had a curry? Perhaps Anusol might be in order?? ;-)

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Catman - 15 Apr 2006 08:59 GMT

>>/me passes nomex ;)
>
> You what?? Let's see..Nomex (brand name of a flame retardant meta-
> aramid material from DuPont). Ahh..I see, *you've passed Kevlar?!*
> Maybe you've had a curry? Perhaps Anusol might be in order?? ;-)

LOL, you fool

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Zathras - 15 Apr 2006 13:03 GMT

>LOL, you fool

Say what you like..I'm Nomexed! ;-)

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SteveH - 14 Apr 2006 22:36 GMT

> As someone who knows little about (too young..ahem..er..cough..) the
> 33, would saying *a 2 door 147 is as close as it gets* likely start a
> flame war (ducks)..

Heretic!

The 33, especially in 16v form, was a legend. The 147 is some horrible
caricature of what a small Alfa should look like.

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Zathras - 14 Apr 2006 23:10 GMT

>> As someone who knows little about (too young..ahem..er..cough..) the
>> 33, would saying *a 2 door 147 is as close as it gets* likely start a
>> flame war (ducks)..
>
>Heretic!

Ouch! But I've never ever claimed to be an Alfisti! Nevertheless, my
poor use of language was meant to imply that for Alfa these days, it's
as close as it gets!

>The 33, especially in 16v form, was a legend. The 147 is some horrible
>caricature of what a small Alfa should look like.

I've tried the 1.6 and 2.0 147s and didn't come away feeling anything
special had happened.

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SteveH - 14 Apr 2006 23:11 GMT

> >> As someone who knows little about (too young..ahem..er..cough..) the
> >> 33, would saying *a 2 door 147 is as close as it gets* likely start a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> poor use of language was meant to imply that for Alfa these days, it's
> as close as it gets!

Unfortunately, close isn't anywhere near good enough.

The 147, IMHO, is just some slightly strangely styled women's shopping
cart.

> >The 33, especially in 16v form, was a legend. The 147 is some horrible
> >caricature of what a small Alfa should look like.
>
> I've tried the 1.6 and 2.0 147s and didn't come away feeling anything
> special had happened.

I'd expect the 1.6 to be crap, but the 2lt should feel OK. I'm not
convinced by the whole package, though. The styling is lacking, both
outside and inside, plus a 156 isn't that much more expensive.

I do wonder if anything will come of the proposals for a Grande Punto
based 'baby' Alfa. One of those with the new 2.2JTS lump would appear to
have potential.

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Zathras - 14 Apr 2006 23:22 GMT

>Unfortunately, close isn't anywhere near good enough.
>
>The 147, IMHO, is just some slightly strangely styled women's shopping
>cart.

Well there *is* only room for a *small* makeup bag in the boot!

>I'd expect the 1.6 to be crap, but the 2lt should feel OK. I'm not
>convinced by the whole package, though. The styling is lacking, both
>outside and inside, plus a 156 isn't that much more expensive.

I tend to agree. Plus I can get my kid's pram into a 156 boot but not
into the 147 hatch (a packaging nightmare, Alfa!).

>I do wonder if anything will come of the proposals for a Grande Punto
>based 'baby' Alfa. One of those with the new 2.2JTS lump would appear to
>have potential.

Interesting. The Grande Punto seems to be going down a storm in the UK
(at least).

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SteveH - 14 Apr 2006 23:21 GMT

> >I do wonder if anything will come of the proposals for a Grande Punto
> >based 'baby' Alfa. One of those with the new 2.2JTS lump would appear to
> >have potential.
>
> Interesting. The Grande Punto seems to be going down a storm in the UK
> (at least).

I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but I'm intrigued. A hot one would
definitely tempt me... wonder if the 2.4 5-pot lump will fit?

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Zathras - 14 Apr 2006 23:30 GMT

>I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but I'm intrigued. A hot one would
>definitely tempt me... wonder if the 2.4 5-pot lump will fit?

If they can get the 2.2 in, I'd think so. Would it be too heavy for
that size of car though - unbalance the handling? They might fit the
1.9 though.

What about smaller capacity petrol with a turbo to keep the weight
down for handling and va va voom..?

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SteveH - 14 Apr 2006 23:32 GMT

> >I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but I'm intrigued. A hot one would
> >definitely tempt me... wonder if the 2.4 5-pot lump will fit?
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> What about smaller capacity petrol with a turbo to keep the weight
> down for handling and va va voom..?

Well.... the old Punto Turbo was a right laugh. I never did have the
bottle to buy one, though, all that power from such a small engine
seemed like it was a grenade about to blow...... but yeah, the Fiat 1.8
lump from the old Punto HGT with a blower would make a cracking small
Alfa.

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DrEntropy - 15 Apr 2006 14:28 GMT

>> >I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but I'm intrigued. A hot one would
>> >definitely tempt me... wonder if the 2.4 5-pot lump will fit?
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>lump from the old Punto HGT with a blower would make a cracking small
>Alfa.

I'd rather see the 2.4 shoehorned in it... not likely to see 'em in
ANY form "over here" tho.

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Zathras - 15 Apr 2006 18:18 GMT

<snip>

>I'd rather see the 2.4 shoehorned in it...

I didn't think you were a diesel fan - the 2.4 is a 5 cylinder oil
burner. Are you thinking of the old 2.5 V6 petrol?

>not likely to see 'em in ANY form "over here" tho.
>
>WAHH! :{

Meantime, Cadillacs, Chryslers and Chevrolets are appearing over here.
Having said that, the 300C is a LOT of car for the money!

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SteveH - 15 Apr 2006 18:44 GMT

> <snip>
> >I'd rather see the 2.4 shoehorned in it...
>
> I didn't think you were a diesel fan - the 2.4 is a 5 cylinder oil
> burner. Are you thinking of the old 2.5 V6 petrol?

Possibly the wonderful Fiat 2.4 5-pot petrol from the Stilo HGT?

Just like the one in my Marea, but with an extra 25 or so bhp. Lovely.

(now, there's an idea)

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Zathras - 15 Apr 2006 20:36 GMT

>Possibly the wonderful Fiat 2.4 5-pot petrol from the Stilo HGT?
>
>Just like the one in my Marea, but with an extra 25 or so bhp. Lovely.

Ahhh..I know even less about Fiats than the 33!!

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