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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / June 2006

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Parts Car -- Should I Buy It?

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marsosudiro@gmail.com - 11 May 2006 03:12 GMT
Esteemed Alfisti --

I have a 1986 Spider Veloce with 171,000 miles, which I acquired last
year.

Its previous owners treated it very well but of course it continues to
age.  Lately, the 1st and 2nd gear syncros have become "particular" and
require a variety of techniques (double-clutching into 2nd from 1st;
and pushing the gearstick into 3rd or 2nd before going into 1st when
the vehicle is stopped) to avoid the "gnashing of teeth" (as mentioned
in parts of the Bible).  (And yes, in case you're wondering, this is
not the original 2nd gear syncro -- it was changed some years ago.)

Now, I have the opportunity to buy a 1987 Graduate parts car which has
only 81,000 miles.  The owner had just bought it a week before it got
totaled from the rear end (by the tow truck that was coming to get it
-- which reminds me, I need to ask for a reminder of why the car was
getting towed in the first place).

According to the owner, the Graduate's transmission was very smooth and
hardly ever made any sounds going into 2nd.  Her mechanic had told her
it was in exceptionally good condition for an 81,000 transmission that
had never (to her knowledge) had a syncro replacement.

Thus the question for me: if I can get the parts car for ~$1,000 (US)
and if I have access to reasonably priced labor to disassemble the
thing, should I buy it?  Will the 81,000 transmission be useful to me?
Or am I just going to spend all that labor for removal and
re-installation to find that in a year or so, it's no better than my
current transmission?

Granted, I'm also going to get a lot of other spare parts: the engine,
the doors, front fenders, and hood in particular might have some value
to me in the future.  (I have space for storage.)

Advice?

Many thanks!

Phil in North Carolina, USA
Catman - 11 May 2006 06:48 GMT
> Esteemed Alfisti --
>
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> the vehicle is stopped) to avoid the "gnashing of teeth" (as mentioned
> in parts of the Bible).  

Ain't dat de troof :)
> (And yes, in case you're wondering, this is
> not the original 2nd gear syncro -- it was changed some years ago.)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> -- which reminds me, I need to ask for a reminder of why the car was
> getting towed in the first place).

You're kidding?

> According to the owner, the Graduate's transmission was very smooth and
> hardly ever made any sounds going into 2nd.  Her mechanic had told her
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> re-installation to find that in a year or so, it's no better than my
> current transmission?

If it was me, I'd have the Graduate's transmission rebuilt and then install
it.  Job done.

> Granted, I'm also going to get a lot of other spare parts: the engine,
> the doors, front fenders, and hood in particular might have some value
> to me in the future.  (I have space for storage.)

Indeed.  I would be very tempted.
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marsosudiro@gmail.com - 11 May 2006 16:02 GMT
>>  The owner had just bought it a week before it got
>> totaled from the rear end (by the tow truck that was coming to get it
>> -- which reminds me, I need to ask for a reminder of why the car was
>> getting towed in the first place).

>You're kidding?

Nope.  Not kidding at all.  She was sitting in the car waiting for the
tow truck when WHAMMO it arrived.  Horrid.  I would link to a pic of
the rear end but it's too depressing.

The tow truck was sufficiently damaged that it also had to be towed.

>> Thus the question for me: if I can get the parts car for ~$1,000 (US)
>> and if I have access to reasonably priced labor to disassemble the
>> thing, should I buy it?  Will the 81,000 transmission be useful to me?
>> Or am I just going to spend all that labor for removal and
>> re-installation to find that in a year or so, it's no better than my
>> current transmission?

>If it was me, I'd have the Graduate's transmission rebuilt and then install
it.  Job done.

Ah, so.  I hadn't thought of that option... Thanks!

Phil in North Carolina, USA.
And hey -- a pic of my '86 Spider Veloce right here:
http://archerpelican.typepad.com/photos/sat/alfa_off_left.html
Catman - 11 May 2006 22:58 GMT
>>>  The owner had just bought it a week before it got
>>> totaled from the rear end (by the tow truck that was coming to get it
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> The tow truck was sufficiently damaged that it also had to be towed.

That hurts :(

>>> Thus the question for me: if I can get the parts car for ~$1,000 (US)
>>> and if I have access to reasonably priced labor to disassemble the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Ah, so.  I hadn't thought of that option... Thanks!

My pleasure
> Phil in North Carolina, USA.
> And hey -- a pic of my '86 Spider Veloce right here:
> http://archerpelican.typepad.com/photos/sat/alfa_off_left.html
*nice*
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marsosudiro@gmail.com - 05 Jun 2006 05:52 GMT
Hi folks --

Final note in the thread -- I decided *not* to buy the salvage car.
Had reasons to suspect that the previous engine hadn't been well cared
for, nor the transmission, alas.  Would have liked to own a few of the
body parts, but not for the cost of buying/moving/storing the whole
car.

> > Phil in North Carolina, USA.
> > And hey -- a pic of my '86 Spider Veloce right here:
> > http://archerpelican.typepad.com/photos/sat/alfa_off_left.html
> *nice*

Thank you, Catman!

Phil in North Carolina, USA

p.s. happily for the owner of the wrecked car -- she found an '88
Spider Veloce that suited her just fine.  I drove it last week and it's
in good shape.
marsosudiro@gmail.com - 27 Jun 2006 00:46 GMT
Hi folks --

A few weeks ago I decided not to buy a salvage car.  Which *of course*
meant that I would crash my baby this afternoon.   D'oh!

Pre-wreck pic here:

> > > And hey -- a pic of my '86 Spider Veloce right here:
> > > http://archerpelican.typepad.com/photos/sat/alfa_off_left.html

I hit a wet spot heading into a curve right before a small bridge.
Fortunately, I got onto the bridge and glanced off the barriers, rather
than missing the bridge and flipping down to the creek.  Damage
results: hood, front bumper, front, right front fender and part of the
rear bumper crunched.  Some damage to the radiator, apparently.  We'll
see...  The fixit guys say they can bang most of my metal back into
shape.  And.... I found another possible parts car nearby for not much.
So.  Mostly just damage to the pocket book.  I'm very lucky.  Also
nice to see that nearly every car that passed me (while I waited for
the tow) stopped to ask if I was OK and if I needed assistance.

Safe driving to you all!

Phil in North Carolina, USA
catman - 27 Jun 2006 06:47 GMT
> Hi folks --
>
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> nice to see that nearly every car that passed me (while I waited for
> the tow) stopped to ask if I was OK and if I needed assistance.

ouch :(

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