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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / September 2007147 52 Plate
Hi i am looking at buying a 52 plate 147 1.6TS Lusso from a local garage. It is showing 50K with main dealer history. I will probarbly get it for about £4500 which doesn't seem too bad. Area there any major service items coming up at this kind of mileage that I need to be aware of and any other things I might find useful being an Alfa newbie. Thanks Tony Hi i am looking at buying a 52 plate 147 1.6TS Lusso from a local garage. It is showing 50K with main dealer history. I will probarbly get it for about £4500 which doesn't seem too bad. Area there any major service items coming up at this kind of mileage that I need to be aware of and any other things I might find useful being an Alfa newbie. Thanks Tony Important, Very. Make sure the Cambelts have been changed and have proof in writing. There are many stories of these failing between 36 and 72,000 miles when they are supposed to be changed.  SignatureWoody Remove NOSPAM to reply. Make sure the cambelt variator has been changed, at the 36k service with the belt. Alfa has changed the schedule from 72K to 36K, and the variator is not always changed for a matter of pounds. The 60K service has all the plugs changed, around £100 for parts. Check all the suspension bushes, brake disks and pads for wear. Otherwise check all the normal items, all switches etc work Mike Make sure the cambelt variator has been changed, at the 36k service >with the belt. >Alfa has changed the schedule from 72K to 36K, and the variator is not >always changed for a matter of pounds. I was charged around £800 for main dealer 48k service and belts change, including the variator. Found an independant alfa specialist after that one. Who expressed some surprise when told the price, especially as it's a 1.6 engine so no balance shaft and belt... >The 60K service has all the plugs changed, around £100 for parts. >Check all the suspension bushes, brake disks and pads for wear. >Otherwise check all the normal items, all switches etc work Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be affecting the steering :-( Booked in to an independant on Thursday, to see what's what! At least the play is so huge now it should be easy to spot where it is. Front left upper arm, I suspect... So, should I suggest / insist on powerflex bushes? If just a replacement upper arm, should both sides be done at the same time? At 50k miles, is it likely that upper, lower, and antiroll-bar bushes all need replacement? dom. > Make sure the cambelt variator has been changed, at the 36k service >> with the belt. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > dom. I've got (orange) poweflex bushes all round - they need lubing every now and then to stop them squeaking (garage job)..... >> Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 >> mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be affecting [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >I've got (orange) poweflex bushes all round - they need lubing every now and >then to stop them squeaking (garage job)..... Garage didn't like to fit powerflex bushes; reckoned it was a really long job. Cost £187 for front left upper strut and left roll bar drop link. :-( Trouble is, now there's no play at all on the left (on the grabbing the top of the wheel and giving it a good hard push/pull test), but now can feel the slight play on the right hand side. Have to wait till my girlfriend has forgotton how much the left one cost before I get the right hand side done! Ah well, it's not noisy yet, hopefully it'll last a while. Courtesy car was an older 156. It seemed very similar to the 147 to drive. Except no ASR ;-) . dom. p.s. I'm told my work colleague's (11yo) daughter said she thought my car was cool. Because of the front number plate not being in the middle! Ah well. > p.s. I'm told my work colleague's (11yo) daughter said > she thought my car was cool. Because of the front > number plate not being in the middle! Ah well. When I was 11yo, I thought it was cool the Golf GTI's with the rear license plate not in the middle, but under the bumper. But when I was 11yo..., wait, was there already the Golf GTI? <googled> yes, but in my small village they only appeared later as used examples. When I was 11yo I saw an Alfasud and liked it. When I was 18 I bought one, Now I'm 40 and still have one. I'm not old, my Alfasud is old and still looks good. I want to be an Alfasud. Too much beer, good night. >>> Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 >>> mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be affecting [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Garage didn't like to fit powerflex bushes; reckoned it was a > really long job. ISTR they split it over 2 days for mine, but that was bushes all round and they'd never fitted them before.... > Cost £187 for front left upper strut and left roll bar drop link. :-( Fitted + parts? > Trouble is, now there's no play at all on the left (on the > grabbing the top of the wheel and giving it a good hard [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > side done! Ah well, it's not noisy yet, hopefully it'll > last a while. You'll probably get the knackered bush squeak soon! > Courtesy car was an older 156. It seemed very similar to > the 147 to drive. Except no ASR ;-) . [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > she thought my car was cool. Because of the front > number plate not being in the middle! Ah well. lol >>> I've got (orange) poweflex bushes all round - they need lubing every >>> now and then to stop them squeaking (garage job)..... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >ISTR they split it over 2 days for mine, but that was bushes all round and >they'd never fitted them before.... Guess you'd have to do all if you were doing any? Certainly have to do matching ones both sides anyway. >> Cost £187 for front left upper strut and left roll bar drop link. :-( > >Fitted + parts? Fitted + parts, yep. Parts costing rather more than they seem to online, but as I have no inclination to DIY it, that's the way it is. >> Trouble is, now there's no play at all on the left (on the >> grabbing the top of the wheel and giving it a good hard [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >You'll probably get the knackered bush squeak soon! :-( Heard it once or twice, but only when provoked over potholes... Anyway, now the left is fixed, I can go back to driving like a mad eejit (when the mood takes me) without sounding like a wheel's about to drop off! dom. >>>> I've got (orange) poweflex bushes all round - they need lubing >>>> every now and then to stop them squeaking (garage job)..... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Guess you'd have to do all if you were doing any? Certainly have > to do matching ones both sides anyway. Mine was front and back..... >>> Cost £187 for front left upper strut and left roll bar drop link. >>> :-( [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to online, but as I have no inclination to DIY it, that's the way > it is. Quite a lot more than I paid I think - I wouldn't DIY it either! >>> Trouble is, now there's no play at all on the left (on the >>> grabbing the top of the wheel and giving it a good hard [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > me) without sounding like a wheel's about to drop > off! Lol - yep, it would have got worse (evolves to a horrifying cunching sound!) >>> Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 >>> mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be affecting [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Garage didn't like to fit powerflex bushes; reckoned it was a > really long job. Dunno about that, but Jamie Porter says they are useless anyway. And if it's not good enough for him..... SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 156 TS 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >>>> Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 >>>> mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Dunno about that, but Jamie Porter says they are useless anyway. And > if it's not good enough for him..... Mine made a difference - they just need lubricating every few weeks! >>>>> Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 >>>>> mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Mine made a difference - they just need lubricating every few weeks! New OEM ones would have made a difference as well...... SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 156 TS 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >>>>>> Suspension bushes on mine (at 50k now) were noisy... after a 500 >>>>>> mile round trip this weekend there's now enough play to be [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > New OEM ones would have made a difference as well...... They would - they had to be changed yearly on the rears though so I decided to try a longer lasting solution... |
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