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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / February 2008Royal 8C Competitizione spotted in Amsterdam...
Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was sold to HRH Prince Bernhard. Here it is. I quite like it in black! http://tinyurl.com/26pf9z Regards, Hans >Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for themselves. >One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was sold to HRH [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Regards, Hans Thanks Hans. What a car. I would be happy to have one in lime green if it meant that I could have one. >> Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for >> themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks Hans. What a car. I would be happy to have one in lime green > if it meant that I could have one. I wouldn't even mind a purple one with yellow polka-dots if that was my only chance of ever owning a car like this... Regards, Hans > Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for themselves. > One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was sold to HRH > Prince Bernhard. Here it is. I quite like it in black! > > http://tinyurl.com/26pf9z <fx: wipes laptop>  SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk Beautiful looking car, but.......doesn't the 8C come with the Maserati gearbox which has been variously described as "jerky / clunky / useless in town" ?? > Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for themselves. > One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was sold to HRH [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Regards, Hans >Beautiful looking car, but.......doesn't the 8C come with the Maserati >gearbox which has been variously described as "jerky / clunky / >useless in town" ?? Only to top posters. All other customers get the revised gearbox that Maserati used within a few months of the remarks above :-) >> Beautiful looking car, but.......doesn't the 8C come with the Maserati >> gearbox which has been variously described as "jerky / clunky / >> useless in town" ?? >> > Only to top posters. All other customers get the revised gearbox that > Maserati used within a few months of the remarks above :-) Oooh that *stings* ;) SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk > Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for > themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was > sold to HRH Prince Bernhard. Here it is. I quite like it in black! > > http://tinyurl.com/26pf9z I think it's a minger, personally. ss. > > Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for > > themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think it's a minger, personally. I love the 8C, but it just doesn't work in black. Has to be red. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >I love the 8C, but it just doesn't work in black. > >Has to be red. Yes, but a re-spayer is easy to find. Finding a 8C is impossible. I'll have any colour and paint it red. >>> Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for >>> themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Has to be red. There is only one colour...... SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >There is only one colour...... ..and it's a blue colour if you don't want to have to polish them more than once a year! ;-) You can keep your Alfa reds..been there seen it got fed up polishing it. Don't get me started on black either.. Saw a white (ivory more like) Fiat 500 with the ivory leather interior - it was *so* cute. Anyone who thinks a mini or anything else is better looking inside simply hasn't seen this colour scheme - it blew me away! The wife and garage thought I might trade the 156 for it..absolutely NO WAY. I couldn't fit inside that girlie toy anyway..probably the same for the 8C then? SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) >> There is only one colour...... > > ..and it's a blue colour You could not be more wrong :) > if you don't want to have to polish them more > than once a year! ;-) You can keep your Alfa reds..been there seen it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > it..absolutely NO WAY. I couldn't fit inside that girlie toy > anyway..probably the same for the 8C then? I doubt I will ever get a chance to find out. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >>> There is only one colour...... >> >> ..and it's a blue colour > >You could not be more wrong :) Bollocks to that. Fantasy Blue is still the best 156 colour though there was a similar shade of green (IYSWIM) that runs it a close second. IMHO! I have never bought a car yet just to enjoy cleaning it! >>..probably the same for the 8C then? > >I doubt I will ever get a chance to find out. Nor me. If I had that sort of money, I'd probably see what kind of Ferrari I could get! SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) > >>> There is only one colour...... > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > there was a similar shade of green (IYSWIM) that runs it a close > second. IMHO! I have never bought a car yet just to enjoy cleaning it! Much as I'd like an easier colour to look after - I reckon our 156 looks perfect in black. For some reason, the (solid) red ones look a bit cheap, as red usually does on a big car [1] - although some of the metallics do look good. Obviously, I'd love one in Nuvola. [1] Saw a red Passat, the same shape and spec. as mine the other day. Just didn't look right at all. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >>>> There is only one colour...... >>> ..and it's a blue colour >> You could not be more wrong :) > > Bollocks to that. Fantasy Blue is still the best 156 colour Tish and pish :) >though > there was a similar shade of green (IYSWIM) that runs it a close [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nor me. If I had that sort of money, I'd probably see what kind of > Ferrari I could get! I'd go for an Aston, probably. Which is, of course, part of the problem with the 8C. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk > > Nor me. If I had that sort of money, I'd probably see what kind of > > Ferrari I could get! > > I'd go for an Aston, probably. Which is, of course, part of the problem > with the 8C. Astons are for footballers these days, sadly. Besides, I know that all low-volume manufacturers have to buy in generic bits from the big companies - but would you prefer your £100k car with stalks and buttons from a 159 or from a Mondeo? SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > >>>> There is only one colour...... > >>> ..and it's a blue colour [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tish and pish :) Watch it, there's two of us... Actually, I was going to get a black Veloce with leather, but the one the salesman showed me was spoken for, unknown to him. However, a Fantasy Blue one was available, and it still looks good 7 and a bit years on, apart from the wheels which are blistered to buggery. SignatureHalmyre I'll just go and get my baton...it's in Chicago. >Watch it, there's two of us... ..and more.. >Actually, I was going to get a black Veloce with leather, but the one the >salesman showed me was spoken for, unknown to him. However, a Fantasy Blue >one was available, and it still looks good 7 and a bit years on, apart from >the wheels which are blistered to buggery. Due to a severe mishap with a large pothole in the dark, I've discovered the easiest and *quickest*, though not cheapest, way to fix that. The 5 hole veloce alloys are 180UKP on 3 day order from a dealer. Otherwise, it can be between 50UKP and 100UKP to repair and a long wait from a wheel re-conditioner. SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) > Saw a white (ivory more like) Fiat 500 with the ivory leather interior > - it was *so* cute. Anyone who thinks a mini or anything else is > better looking inside simply hasn't seen this colour scheme - it blew > me away! The wife and garage thought I might trade the 156 for > it..absolutely NO WAY. I couldn't fit inside that girlie toy > anyway..probably the same for the 8C then? Which is what the wife's 147 is being traded in for - a white 500. Not a girlie one though it has a sport button to make the steering heavier and the throttle more responsive, the girlie ones have a city button to make the steering lighter :) Cheers Tony > > Saw a white (ivory more like) Fiat 500 with the ivory leather interior > > - it was *so* cute. Anyone who thinks a mini or anything else is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > heavier and the throttle more responsive, the girlie ones have a city > button to make the steering lighter :) Oooh, nice. I have been showing pics of them to Katie, saying she should have one to replace the 156 in a couple of years, but she's not impressed. I think I've created an Alfisti monster. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >Not a girlie one though it has a sport button to make the steering >heavier and the throttle more responsive, From what I'm seeing, that may not be the ultimate option. Apparently, the 500 suffers from a fidgety, bouncy ride with the car being pushed about on uneven road surfaces. The softer suspended 'Lounge' is quite acceptable for this (in its class) but the sport is showing up as rather poor. As a girlie *town* car, the 500 Lounge and panoramic roof will excel but trying to make it something different will take it into areas it simply isn't competent in right now. 'Sport' mode with the current slow engine range, performance and handling doesn't sound like a particularly good fit. I'll be waiting for the Abarth for a, hopefully, useful attempt at a 'sport' button. SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) > Apparently, the 500 suffers from a fidgety, bouncy ride with the car > being pushed about on uneven road surfaces. The softer suspended > 'Lounge' is quite acceptable for this (in its class) but the sport is There is some confusion with the trim levels. The Popular, Lounge & Sport have identical suspension setups, the designations are simply trim. The 1.4 models have uprated suspension and with 16" wheels will have the hardest ride. The Lounge has exactly the same as the Sport. Believe me having driven a 1.4 on 16s it doesn't feel hard compared with an Audi A3 and not too dissimilar from a 147 albeit the little car has more bounce. I wouldn't want it any softer but that is personal opinion based on having fairly stiffly spring cars (I found a 159 too soft compared with a 156 Veloce). In Fiat parlance "Sport" is no more than trim level (you can have a Punto Grande 1.2 Active Sport which just has different trim, no sporting pretensions. The "Sporting" variant is the quicker versions (confused?) Sport is meant to appeal to the younger driver but many think it is a sportier drive. > As a girlie *town* car, the 500 Lounge and panoramic roof will excel > but trying to make it something different will take it into areas it > simply isn't competent in right now. 'Sport' mode with the current > slow engine range, performance and handling doesn't sound like a > particularly good fit. Like I said Sport doesn't mean sporting, the Abarth versions will provide that. The Sport button is a bit of a gimmick, you could turn it around and have it set to Sport as standard and have a City button to lighten things up. Although it may appeal to a his and hers mentality where a car is shared. As for slow, well the 1.4 is the 100hp unit and feels as quick as the 147. It is only about 1 sec off the 147 to 60 and being a more frenetic ride feels reasonably quick. To be honest with its cutesy looks nippiness seems the right quality rather than hot hatch performance and it revs nicely like a little Italian car should. In my view the 147 2.0 doesn't meet the expectations of a 150bhp warm hatch whereas the 500 exceeds the expectations of a little city car. > I'll be waiting for the Abarth for a, hopefully, useful attempt at a > 'sport' button. Certainly the current 500 range is only Mini One performance and to be honest its appeal is different to the Mini that it doesn't matter that the Mini is ultimately more sporting, just as choosing an Alfa over a rear drive BMW which would win on the track. The Abarth will move it into Cooper territory and be a true "Sporting" model. I wish Fiat would rename the "Sport" trim level as it only deceives. Cheers Tony >> Apparently, the 500 suffers from a fidgety, bouncy ride with the car >> being pushed about on uneven road surfaces. The softer suspended >> 'Lounge' is quite acceptable for this (in its class) but the sport is > >There is some confusion with the trim levels. The Popular, Lounge & >Sport have identical suspension setups, the designations are simply trim. ..and wheels. The Pop has 14 inch wheels as standard except in the 1.4 which has the 15 inch wheels..according to my 'You are. We Car' brochure. >The 1.4 models have uprated suspension and with 16" wheels will have the >hardest ride. The Lounge has exactly the same as the Sport. Yes, you are completely correct. I was misled by reviews of the 1.4 16v Sport with the biggest wheels (i.e test cars with extra options pretending to be just the standard Sport car) compared to Lounge cars with more 'comfortable' options (smaller wheels). However the journalists reporting this may also have been confused by the harder seats in the Sport spec. >As for slow, well the 1.4 is the 100hp unit and feels as quick as the >147. It is only about 1 sec off the 147 to 60 and being a more frenetic >ride feels reasonably quick. I've never been impressed with any 147 I've driven - all should have been quicker with tighter suspension IMHO. >In my view the 147 2.0 doesn't meet the expectations of a 150bhp warm >hatch whereas the 500 exceeds the expectations of a little city car. Indeed. SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) >>>> Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for >>>> themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > There is only one colour...... Does red still fade on Alfas like it used to? I deliberately didn't buy red for that reason! >>>>> Sorry text is in dutch, but then again.. the pictures speak for >>>>> themselves. One of the ten 8C's that were allocated to dutch customers [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Does red still fade on Alfas like it used to? I deliberately didn't buy red > for that reason! Red fades on pretty much all cars. Blue light has more energy.... Things are better now though IMHO. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >Red fades on pretty much all cars. Blue light has more energy.... ..so..unless you want a pink car, get a lovely blue one? ;-))) SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) >> Red fades on pretty much all cars. Blue light has more energy.... > > ..so..unless you want a pink car, get a lovely blue one? ;-))) Only if it's so dark people keep thinking it's black :) SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >>Red fades on pretty much all cars. Blue light has more energy.... > > ..so..unless you want a pink car, get a lovely blue one? ;-))) Exactly what I did! >>> Has to be red. >> >> There is only one colour...... > > Does red still fade on Alfas like it used to? I deliberately didn't buy > red for that reason! The paint on all red cars fade over time, since they banned the use of lead in paint. ss. >The paint on all red cars fade over time, since they banned the use of lead >in paint. My leaded red painted cars suffered superb blooming too. As Catman hinted at, red paint absorbs high energy light and deteriorates much faster than blue paint which reflects high energy blue light. Due to the length of time manufacturers have had to overcome this feature of red paint and failed, I assume it's fundamentally insoluble. SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) >> The paint on all red cars fade over time, since they banned the use of lead >> in paint. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > feature of red paint and failed, I assume it's fundamentally > insoluble. Or they just don't care...... SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >Or they just don't care...... You'd think they might with the extended paintwork warranties you get these days (3 years even for an Alfa). SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) >> Or they just don't care...... > > You'd think they might with the extended paintwork warranties you get > these days (3 years even for an Alfa). Ah, but you try claiming on a paintwork problem! (mate's GT has flaking red paint on it's rear bumper and nearside wing, Alfa told him he's had an accident and had the car resprayed..... which was news to him, the insurance company and the lease company!) >>> Or they just don't care...... >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >told him he's had an accident and had the car resprayed..... which was news >to him, the insurance company and the lease company!) Is he certain that the car did not get a scratch during shipping/unloading and was painted before he bought it? Is he certain that the car did not get scratched at the dealership and was quietly sprayed by them before sale? Is he certain that the car did not suffer a scratch at dealers after sale to him but before collection and was sprayed on the QT? These all have and do happen :-( >Is he certain that the car did not get a scratch during >shipping/unloading and was painted before he bought it? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >These all have and do happen :-( ..especially on Alfas..IME! :-( SignatureZ Scotland Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather 'Oil' be seeing you.. (Email without 'Alfa' in subject will be auto-deleted..sorry!) >>>> Or they just don't care...... >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > These all have and do happen :-( Yeah - he's considered all of those..... it's peeling from two distinct and different areas so if it did happen they must have run it through a gorse bush or something! The annoying thing (for him) is he's got a really cheap buy back price from the lease company (who were unaware of the problem at the time) which *would* have made him a couple of grand selling it on straight away! |
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