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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / March 2008

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Catman - 19 Mar 2008 11:45 GMT
SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
funny noise'

2 x AA men have looked so far
1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
'fairings can break')
2) Gearbox is gone.  Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it still
changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.

My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.

Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
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Eddie Bermuda - 20 Mar 2008 19:27 GMT
My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant.  The bearing looked
like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears to
strip...all the swarf jammed the box.  Had to have the gearbox stripped,
gear and associated bits changed, a new clutch put in (since it was all
in bits anyway) and rebuilt...£1000, but there was a lot of damage and
it took a lot of labour time. Independent garage too.  On the plus side,
the car drove better than it ever had before!

Good luck and hope it's not as serious.

> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
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> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
> Prace Bets now
Catman - 20 Mar 2008 22:39 GMT
> My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant.  The bearing looked
> like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears to
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>
> Good luck and hope it's not as serious.

Cheers. Can't see it coming in much less than a grand TBH

>> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
>> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>> Prace Bets now

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Eddie Bermuda - 21 Mar 2008 08:51 GMT
I ended up spending about £1750 on it to get the gearbox fixed, radiator
fixed, and the front suspension fixed...then traded it in three months
later and got £2500 for it (against a GT)...

It's only money...

>> My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant.  The bearing looked
>> like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears
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>>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>>> Prace Bets now
Catman - 21 Mar 2008 09:43 GMT
> I ended up spending about £1750 on it to get the gearbox fixed, radiator
> fixed, and the front suspension fixed...then traded it in three months
> later and got £2500 for it (against a GT)...
>
> It's only money...

Indeed

C

>>> My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant.  The bearing looked
>>> like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears
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>>>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>>>> Prace Bets now

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SteveH - 21 Mar 2008 14:38 GMT
> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
> Prace Bets now

50 - 100 quid for a second hand box.

Plus the cost of a new clutch (may as well do it whilst the box is
dropped)

4 hours labour.

I dunno - 400 quid, tops?
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Catman - 21 Mar 2008 16:10 GMT
>> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
>> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
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>
> I dunno - 400 quid, tops?

Sounds wonderfully optimistic :)

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SteveH - 21 Mar 2008 16:12 GMT
> >> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
> >> Prace Bets now
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>
> Sounds wonderfully optimistic :)

Well, if it's just box internals, then I reckon I'm not far off.

All depends on labour rates, I suppose - but when my 33 chewed it's diff
bearings, I had it swapped for 75 quid, on top of the box, which cost me
another 75.

When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
spares for 500 quid.
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www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

GT - 21 Mar 2008 17:15 GMT
>> >> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>> >> Prace Bets now
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> When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
> spares for 500 quid.

I wouldn't have time or know how. If my PC does the equivalent of blowing a
head, or chewing its own gearbox, then sleeves up and here we go, but not
cars - I understand them, but would never trust my work if I tried things
myself! Trouble is, the PC is cheaper to repair!
SteveH - 21 Mar 2008 17:18 GMT
> > Well, if it's just box internals, then I reckon I'm not far off.
> >
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> cars - I understand them, but would never trust my work if I tried things
> myself! Trouble is, the PC is cheaper to repair!

I didn't do it myself.... I got a man in ;-)

Local gearbox specialist took the 2 used boxes from me, removed the
knackered one from the car and built a good one from all 3, using new
bearings where appropriate, though.
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www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Catman - 21 Mar 2008 22:59 GMT
>>>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>>>> Prace Bets now
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> When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
> spares for 500 quid.

Groovy :)

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