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Car Forum / Alfa Romeo Cars / December 2003

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Alfa part of Ferrari... What's the status?

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Neuropean - 18 Dec 2003 10:12 GMT
Anyone with more information about the proposal to put Alfa Romeo in
the Ferrari Maserati Group?
Rumours?
Hints?
Secret Files?
Morpheus?
Anyone?
Neuropean
Carl Farrington - 19 Dec 2003 19:19 GMT
> Anyone with more information about the proposal to put Alfa Romeo in
> the Ferrari Maserati Group?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Anyone?
> Neuropean

Alfa are part of the FIAT group, along with Ferrari and Maserati. Perhaps
what you're thinking of is the suggestion that Alfa become more prestegous
(sp?) alongside Ferrari & Maserati ?
Tony Rickard - 19 Dec 2003 22:59 GMT
> > Anyone with more information about the proposal to put Alfa Romeo in
> > the Ferrari Maserati Group?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> what you're thinking of is the suggestion that Alfa become more prestegous
> (sp?) alongside Ferrari & Maserati ?

The following was floating around newsgroups a year or so ago:

" Alfa Romeo to be transferred to the Ferrari-Maserati Group
- Fiat to cancel the 'put' option requiring GM to buy the auto division
- GM to give up first refusal option on sale of transfer of auto group
assets
-!!! VW/Audi to take 'significant but minority' stake in the new
Ferari-Maserati-Alfa Romeo company
- 'Powertrain', the joint GM/Fiat parts development company and platform
sharing to be unaffected "
George Graves - 20 Dec 2003 02:17 GMT
> > Anyone with more information about the proposal to put Alfa Romeo in
> > the Ferrari Maserati Group?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> what you're thinking of is the suggestion that Alfa become more prestegous
> (sp?) alongside Ferrari & Maserati ?

That's not exactly true. Both Fiat Auto and Ferrari are owned by Fiat
corporate, but they are semi-autonomous subsidiaries. I.E. Fiat Auto
controls Lancia, AR and Fiat brands and Ferrari controls Maserati and
Ferrari brands. It has been suggested that Alfa Romeo would be better
served as a marque if they were removed from the struggling Fiat Auto
division and placed under the Ferrari division. I agree as does Luca Di
Montezemolo, the president of Ferrari S.P.A.

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George Graves
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Emile Faber -Founder, Faber College

Neuropean - 22 Dec 2003 12:44 GMT
I'm asking because I found this on an italian 147  discussion Group:
Taken from an Italian Car MAgazine:

"... Giugiaro firmerà le prossime Alfa Romeo. Si parla fra l'altro di
un "ridimensionamento" del centro stile di Arese, per concentrare a
Torino tutto il design del Gruppo, ma in proposito è aperta
un'alternativa, legata al possibile ingresso del marchio Alfa Romeo
nel gruppo Ferrari-Maserati. Se tale ipotesi, per ora allo stadio
embrionale, si concretizzerà, in seguito al passaggio di Fiat e Lancia
alla General Motors, è già in fase di progettazione a Maranello un
centro stile all'avanguardia dove, oltre alle vetture modenesi,
potranno essere concepite e sviluppate le future Alfa Romeo

Rapidly translated this gives:
"...Giugiaro will sign the next Alfa Romeo. There are rumours about
"resizing" the Centro Stile in Arese to concentrate all the Group's
design in Turin; but on that matter, an alternative remains open,
linked to the possible entrance of the Alfa Romeo brand in the
Ferrari-Maserati group. If that hypothesis, now still at embryo
status, will materialise, after the passage of the FIat and Lancia
brands to General Motors, a new vanguard design center is  in project
at Maranello, where on top of the cars from Modena (i.e. Ferrari,
ndt), could be designed and developed the future Alfa Romeo."


Neuropean
Carl Farrington - 22 Dec 2003 18:07 GMT
>>> Anyone with more information about the proposal to put Alfa Romeo in
>>> the Ferrari Maserati Group?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> division and placed under the Ferrari division. I agree as does Luca
> Di Montezemolo, the president of Ferrari S.P.A.

I never knew that. Thanks for the information!
Dluesley - 28 Dec 2003 00:25 GMT
My understanding, and this is very depressing, Alfa  will be acquired by GM, GM
already owns 20 percent of Alfa.
George Graves - 28 Dec 2003 09:51 GMT
> My understanding, and this is very depressing, Alfa  will be acquired by GM,
> GM
> already owns 20 percent of Alfa.

Not likley. Neither Fiat or GM seem to want to exercise that "put"
option.

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George Graves
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Emile Faber -Founder, Faber College

 
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