> >My 99 156 2.0 T.Spark has rust along the joint of the windscreen, Does
> >anyone else have a similar problem and if so how did you deal with it
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> fine. Apply with a brush and don't make the mistake of working on a bigger area
> than is necessary, as it will show.
Hi,
Rust has always been a problem in cars. But not only in Italian cars
as some reporters like to remind us.
Yes Alfas and fiats, Lancias and so on did have a bad name years ago,
but what these reporters fail to say, maybe because they have a lack
of expierience with cars from the past, is that so did the British,
and French.
You go back to the good old Cortina, the Mk1 was a car that would last
4/5 years before having work carried out on the body, if looked after.
The Mk2 and Mk3, if you got to 3 years you had to start counting your
money in case you could not afford the bill. In fact, I welded a new
boot floor and B post into a 2 year old Mk3 so that the owner could
get rid of it.
Then there was the 60/s pride and joy, the Mini.Where the rear
subframe would last 2/3 years if you were lucky, then after
repacement, I have known them to last 18 months. Plus the wings would
rot off in the same time.
Now, comparing the new Alfa's with other cars.
I have posted messages on here before about my cars against other cars
I have had. I now own a 3 series BMW, plus a 147 Alfa, I had a 146
from 95 till 02, when I sold it, you could not find a spot of rust
anywhere.
The BMW I own at present is 5 year old with 50k miles on the clock. It
has had a complete new back panel fitted after 2 years [by the BMW
dealers] because the rust being too far gone to clean up. After 5
years, that new panel has got rust in the same place.
Don't try and tell me that Alfa's are rust buckets now.
You will find that the people that call Alfas, and Fiats, have never
had anything to do with Italian cars, and have only driven Ford
Escorts or Vauxhall Novas.
Sorry to go on a bit, but I cannot stand people who bring cars down
before they even sit in one, let alone drive one.
Maybe if they spent their money and bought an Alfa or a Fiat, instead
of buying spare parts and body panels for their Fords & Vauxhalls they
might enjoy life.
John.
SteveH - 25 Dec 2003 11:41 GMT
> > Apply with a brush and don't make the mistake of working on a
> > bigger area
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> Rust has always been a problem in cars. But not only in Italian cars
> as some reporters like to remind us.
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Great rant there, John.
But oh so true.
Even my 12 year old 75 is pretty much rot-free. Just that little bit
that goes under the rear lights.
I've seen much worse so-called 'quality' German cars at that age.

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Pete M - 26 Dec 2003 23:32 GMT
SteveH made the world a better place for us by saying..
>>> Apply with a brush and don't make the mistake of working on a
>>> bigger area
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>
> I've seen much worse so-called 'quality' German cars at that age.
not a spot on my 164 (apart from a tiny bit of stonechip induced
microblistering on the bonnet)
not bad for 1990 car if you ask me..
even better for ?160..
I think it'd be a great idea for people to stop pointing out the fact late
model Alfas don't rot as badly as say a 5 series, and let the ignoramus
quota run from all the nice cheap 164s.. so I can buy 'em. I'm gonna be
after a late model 164 Cloverleaf in a few months, so keep schtum til then..
ta ;-)

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Alfa Romeo 164 TS.
Lincoln TownCar (33ft of Incontinent, Barely Guided Missile)
Liverpool, Great Britain.
johnlongworthb@aol.com - 28 Dec 2003 12:19 GMT
> SteveH made the world a better place for us by saying..
> >
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> after a late model 164 Cloverleaf in a few months, so keep schtum til then..
> ta ;-)
Hi Pete,
We should wait till you have got your 164, then send as many letters
as possible to Top Gear, plus Mouthy Clarkson and team and just maybe,
they might get the message.
After all, they seem to like the perfomance and style, but have not
got the message that thousands of owmers just love their Alfa Romeo's
build quality.
And it seems to be the in thing with these TV presenters to complain
about the "PLASTICS USED",who the hell is bothered, as long as it
looks nice and does the job intended thats ok with me, after all, if
we, "the owners" didn't like the plastics, we wouldn't buy the cars in
the first place.
John, UK.