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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Fiero / December 2005

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David Bosworth - 03 Dec 2005 20:56 GMT
Hi guys! What a great group you have built up here. I have just read through
the last 600 or so headers and have learned quite a bit!
Not quite sure how I became obsessed with these little gems but I am! and
being a little on the compulsive side all my life I have learned to just buy
the ticket and take the ride!
In any event, the questions are,

Are there any years to stay away from? or maybe preferred?

Which tranny would you guys say gives the best reliability? (manual vs.
auto)

In the stock configuration which engine offers the best performance? This
question I suppose could be added to the previous question as far as
combinations of the auto/manual transitions coupled to the different
engines.

Are the red ones faster? hehehe

What would you consider the average life span (in miles) of a well cared for
stock Fiero? Another words on my car hunt should there be a cut off point
that would make the car worth looking at. I realize this question is kinda
weird being that mileage does not always mean too much but figured I would
throw it your way anyhow. I would think an hour meter would be a far better
way of both maintaining and judging condition at a glance,,,,, but hey what
can ya do?

What would you say about the overall reliability of this design as compared
to other makes and models of cars in it's era?
Might be an age thing but 1990 cars still seem new to me, heh.

Are there any Fiero clubs or groups in Washington state?

Thanks for the space!
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From the rocky shores of the Skykomish river
David Bosworth
http://www.premier1.net/~daveb/
Derek MacPhail - 04 Dec 2005 15:48 GMT
Hi David:

One question:  Are you going to try to make your Fiero float?  ;)

(I just visited your web page - people may be scratching their heads and
wondering what I'm talking about).

Cheers, Derek
David Bosworth - 04 Dec 2005 18:20 GMT
Make it float heh? hmmmm makes me think of that Roger Moore James Bond flick
where his car turns into a mini sub,,,,, what kind of car was that anyways.
AS I remember it looked kind of Fieroish.

No comment on the Fiero questions?

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From the rocky shores of the Skykomish river
David Bosworth
http://www.premier1.net/~daveb/hovercrafts.html

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Todd Zuercher - 04 Dec 2005 19:30 GMT
> Hi guys! What a great group you have built up here. I have just read through
> the last 600 or so headers and have learned quite a bit!
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> Are there any years to stay away from? or maybe preferred?

84's tend to be the least desirable, only the 4cyl avalible that
year/made the least power, had the most problems (problems that would
have been worked out by now in any car still driven) and are wired a bit
differently from the later cars. 85-87 are all basically the same cars
fast back GT style only from 86+.  88 cars, suspention and brakeswas
totaly redone (virtually no parts interchange with earlier years)
handling chariteristcs were vastly improved but cost and avalibilty of
suspention and brake parts is nearly double of earlier models. The v-6s
tend to be much more reliable than the 4, and the 4 only makes about
2/3rds the horse power stock.  If you are talking about a race type
engine and power levels the 4 might accually be capible of more reliable
horses then the six.  But for that kind of power it is cheeper and far
easier to just to drop in a v-8 of some sort.

> Which tranny would you guys say gives the best reliability? (manual vs.
> auto)

Manual (I'm biased), but Fiero cluches can be tricky to maintain
especially the hydrolics.

> In the stock configuration which engine offers the best performance? This
> question I suppose could be added to the previous question as far as
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> way of both maintaining and judging condition at a glance,,,,, but hey what
> can ya do?

Millage is not a very good calc for reliability especially for a car
this age.  Rust will be these cars (or any) biggest enemy, second only
to neglect.

> What would you say about the overall reliability of this design as compared
> to other makes and models of cars in it's era?

Average

> Might be an age thing but 1990 cars still seem new to me, heh.
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> David Bosworth
> http://www.premier1.net/~daveb/

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John Craker - 04 Dec 2005 21:15 GMT
>> Are there any Fiero clubs or groups in Washington state?

There's several.  We all get together in Arlington, WA every year (in the
summer) from Washington, Oregon, BC (where I am), and we've even had some
from northern California.

Jet City Fieros 4220 Olympic West Tacoma, WA. 98466 206-355-5936

There's one of 'em anyhow (the Arlington meet is actually there B'day party
really!) to get you going.
David Bosworth - 04 Dec 2005 22:21 GMT
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From the rocky shores of the Skykomish river
David Bosworth
http://www.premier1.net/~daveb/hovercrafts.html

> > Hi guys! What a great group you have built up here. I have just read through
> > the last 600 or so headers and have learned quite a bit!
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> > Thanks for the space!

Thanks Todd!

That is exactly the type of info I am after. I have been leaning towards a
six and have become a big fan of fuel infection but there are a lot more of
the fours around for sale here so I figured I should ask about them. My Sube
has a four and it has plenty of power.
I prefer a stick shift myself especially in smaller borderline power cars. I
have had a few 350cu Camaro's and prefer the auto in those. It also comes in
quite handy when a guy injures a leg!

Thanks again
Phil Randolph - 04 Dec 2005 22:36 GMT
For additional information you might want to check out www.fiero.nl/forum

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> Thanks again
 
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