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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Fiero / July 2006

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Whar the heck is everybody??

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Mr Potatohead - 14 Jul 2006 15:10 GMT
I'm screwing with boats, not cars, right now. I'm
going to Canada for a couple weeks. That's my
excuse. What's yours for not writing here? Is Skip
finally underway... boat in order and Lydia totally
into being a tar? Is Jazzman so totally into the
Pennock's crowd that he don't even write here
anymore? Is Boomstick so happy to be near the Fiero
Factory that all his problems have gone away and no
new ones have developed? Where are those Canadian
lads when we need them?

Is anything happening here that is interesting
because we are going to lose ISPs if we don't keep
this forum alive and well... and we'll have a
helluva time getting it back. Talk about Fieros,
talk about the weather, talk about arthritis. Talk
about your wildest Fiero fantasy -- like making an
amphibiancar out of one... an ELECTRIC amphibian car
or one that runs on RUST!!!!! :-)

El Senor Patatacabeza
Phil Randolph - 14 Jul 2006 17:20 GMT
You know where I am - just up the road from ya

> I'm screwing with boats, not cars, right now. I'm going to Canada for a
> couple weeks. That's my excuse. What's yours for not writing here? Is
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>
> El Senor Patatacabeza
Mr Potatohead - 15 Jul 2006 11:23 GMT
> You know where I am - just up the road from ya

Yes, but farther inland... too far to get all
involved in this stupid water stuff.

Landlubbah!
John Craker - 15 Jul 2006 06:57 GMT
My right foot hurts.  I think I might have cracked a bone.  I'll make sure
to blame it on something at work (pretty sure it happened there anyhow!).
Hmmmm...  long term disability sounds like fun!

More time to work on my new Fiero plans!

> Talk about Fieros, talk about the weather, talk about arthritis. Talk
> about your wildest Fiero fantasy
Mr Potatohead - 15 Jul 2006 11:21 GMT
> My right foot hurts.  I think I might have cracked a bone.  I'll make sure
> to blame it on something at work (pretty sure it happened there anyhow!).
> Hmmmm...  long term disability sounds like fun!

I hate it when my foot hurts!

> More time to work on my new Fiero plans!

Finally having to sacrifice another Fiero for parts.
But no one seemed to want it for driving and it's
probably turning to rust in the yard. Shame. I'll
have to concentrate on just the 86GT and rubbish the
rest, I guess. I'll think of all that when I get
this "boat thing" done for the season. :-)
Don Bjortomt - 15 Jul 2006 12:20 GMT
I've been in the Toronto area during the week since October. I just renewed
my work permit. I am commuting on the weekends from Indiana.  It is normally
7 hours one way but is running 9 with the construction and and border
traffic this summer.  Too tired to post most weekends and the company
doesn't allow newsgroups on their computers.

My 88GT fiero (78,000 miles) is just sitting as I am driving a rental.  How
long can I let it set without problems.  I have been trying to take it out
about every three weeks for about 20 minutes.

Regards;

Don
> I'm screwing with boats, not cars, right now. I'm going to Canada for a
> couple weeks. That's my excuse. What's yours for not writing here? Is Skip
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>
> El Senor Patatacabeza
Mr Potatohead - 15 Jul 2006 22:40 GMT
> I've been in the Toronto area during the week since October. I just renewed
> my work permit. I am commuting on the weekends from Indiana.  It is normally
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> long can I let it set without problems.  I have been trying to take it out
> about every three weeks for about 20 minutes.

It's been my experience that when you leave a Fiero
sit, it's the calipers that freeze up, don't
release, rub and heat up the rotors. That's the
first thing I ever noticed and the ONLY thing I ever
had a problem with by letting one sit. And I've let
them sit!!

Since you're taking it out regularly, I don't think
you'll have much of a problem. Nothing you wouldn't
have anyway using it daily.
JStricker - 17 Jul 2006 14:10 GMT
I never have posted much, just helping occasionally when I can.

Jazzman bought a house and has been working on it since it's a real, honest,
"fixer-upper".  He let his internet access go at home and now connects
either at the library or work on breaks, etc., so he's not on much anywhere.
I'm not sure he still has newsgroup access anymore.

I see Eric (Boomtastic) has been posting lately, and that's a good thing for
everyone.

We are still building the first Finale Roadster by a customer, which if I
can get some time won't take long to finish.  Because I'm a glutton for
punishment, we also have the race car on the lift right now and it's getting
a conversion from automatic to 5 speed behind the V6.

I don't know that I've ever mentioned to the group what the race car
actually is, but it's an '86 with an aero nose and notchie.  Added an '84
rear deck so it's open all across the front of the rear deck area to let the
heat out.  Most everything that can be reasonably removed (lights, hvac,
etc.) has been and with the change to manual should be close to or below
2,000# empty.  We autocross the car, primarily, but have it entered in the
Sand Hills Open Road Challenge at Arnold, NE, in August, so that should be
fun.( http://www.sorcrace.com/ )

We are also still working corners at SCCA Midwest Division Road Race Events
and that takes a lot of our weekends in fact, cutting back on the number of
autocrosses we're able to run.  Workers are in very short supply all over
the country and there have even been races cancelled due to a shortage of
workers so we really try to work all of those we can.

So, that's about it from Central KS.  Hope everyone stays cool this week  I
heard SD was 117°F or some such ridiculous number yesterday.  Topeka at the
races was "only" 104°.  3 drivers retired and we had to help them out of
their cars due to heat exhaustion.  One was given IV fluids.  If they didn't
have a cool shirt on, they were either ironmen or screwed, take your pick.
The Open wheel and formula cars were in the worst shape being only 1" or
less from 145° pavement with no way to have a cool shirt in the car.

Be careful everyone that the heat is going to affect and take care of and
watch out for each other, it's nothing to play with.

John Stricker

> I'm screwing with boats, not cars, right now. I'm going to Canada for a
> couple weeks. That's my excuse. What's yours for not writing here? Is Skip
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>
> El Senor Patatacabeza
Mr Potatohead - 18 Jul 2006 02:24 GMT
> I never have posted much, just helping occasionally when I can.
>
> Jazzman bought a house and has been working on it since it's a real, honest,
> "fixer-upper".  He let his internet access go at home and now connects
> either at the library or work on breaks, etc., so he's not on much anywhere.
> I'm not sure he still has newsgroup access anymore.

So that's why the boy has been so quiet lately. Ahhh!

> I see Eric (Boomtastic) has been posting lately, and that's a good thing for
> everyone.

He has indeed. So far he seems to be the rare Fiero
enthusiast who knows something about newsgroups but
even HE is not able to bring Ed Parks into the fold.

> We are still building the first Finale Roadster by a customer, which if I
> can get some time won't take long to finish.  Because I'm a glutton for
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> the country and there have even been races cancelled due to a shortage of
> workers so we really try to work all of those we can.

What do you mean "workers"? Volunteers at events?
There does seem to be a decline in interest levels.
These things are cyclical.

> So, that's about it from Central KS.  Hope everyone stays cool this week  I
> heard SD was 117°F or some such ridiculous number yesterday.  Topeka at the
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> Be careful everyone that the heat is going to affect and take care of and
> watch out for each other, it's nothing to play with.

Even boating is in the doldrums. Unless your "yacht"
is air-conditioned, there's no breeze gonna make you
comfy. If this global warming thing takes off, I see
all outdoor activities moving to the winter.
JStricker - 20 Jul 2006 02:49 GMT
> What do you mean "workers"? Volunteers at events? There does seem to be a
> decline in interest levels. These things are cyclical.

Tater,

Good question.  I've been doing this for several years and forget that most
people have no idea what I'm talking about (which seems to be getting more
and more common when I talk).

I work at SCCA Midwest Division and other events (clubs) at Heartland Park,
Topeka.  The tracks I work at are HPT, MAM at Omaha, and Hallett at Tulsa.
There are two more Midiv tracks, one in St. Louis and one in Memphis, that I
haven't worked at yet but hope to sometime this year.

I wish it was cyclical, but in our case it is not.  There has been a steady
decline in workers over the last 15 years and nothing to indicate that trend
is going to change.  My son and I started this about 5 years ago and we have
had ONE new worker join us since then although we've lost about 6 or 7 in
that same time due to change of location, dying, or just getting too old to
feel comfortable doing it any longer.  The pool of workers is getting
smaller and I don't see that changing soon.

Anytime there's a road race there are a whole bunch of jobs to do.  Here's a
partial list:

Registration
Tech (scrutineers)
Grid
Pits
Flagging and Communications
Start
Race Control
Timing and Scoring
Hospitality

etc.

Most of these are self explanatory, some are not.  For instance, hospitality
seems minor but in reality that's where drivers and crew come to get their
times, placing, ask questions, etc.  In short, the are the middle men
between the stewards and the actual participants.

You can choose to get involved in any or all of the above, whatever turns
your fancy.  My specialty is Flagging and Communications which makes me a
"corner worker" and, more important to me, a member of the Kansas City
Region "Leaping Lizards" Corner Crew, one of the oldest and most respected
in the country.

What do F&C workers do?  If you ever watch road racing on TV and see a crash
or a stalled car, you'll see a couple of people run out to the car, no
matter where they are on the track, to assist them.  Well, that's us, the
corner workers.  That's a big part of our job.

At each turn there is a corner station.  At nice tracks, they have a little
gazebo and benches to relax in between races, at less improved tracks they
have a tumbleweed or two.  8-)  We go out and set up our station about 1/2
hour before the races start that day.  Make sure our fire bottles are
charged and pinned, have our brooms and oil-dri, water, flags,
communications gear, etc.  When a race starts, we watch for, well, whatever.
If a car wrecks, or breaks, we run to the car and assist as we can.  Most
times, that's making sure the driver is OK and find out if he can make it to
a safe location, or if we have to push him to one, or if we need a flat tow
now, or whatever.  The whole time, the person on the "phones" is talking to
race control and keeping them aware of what's going on at our station.  We
also flag the corner.  If an incident happens and there is track blockage,
that's a waving yellow flag, if there's a dead car of the course, that's a
standing yellow flag, we use a blue flag to inform a driver he's being
overtaken and please allow the pass (but he doesn't have to), white flags
cover a slow moving (either race car or emergency vehicle) on the course,
surface (red and yellow) tells the drivers to be careful there is something
(gravel, dirt, oil, whatever) on the track and to proceed with caution.

Normally, our area of responsibility starts exactly at our corner and ends
at the next corner.  In reality, whoever is closest runs to assist (and you
ALWAYS take the 10 # fire bottle with you.....ALWAYS) and the
"responsibility" is only valid for flagging.

It means we get to watch great racing at distances that are, literally,
close enough to touch the cars.  Sometimes we even get lunch, but that's
about all as far as payment (but they have some great parties after the
race).

I've seen really, really bad things, like losing a driver to fire in a 911
Porsche to the more routine stuff like just breaking down and of course
there are the ever popular "bumper car class" also known as Spec Miata's.
8-)

This past weekend was very hot and we had real problems with heat exhaustion
from the drivers.  136° track surface temperatures, 104° ambient air.  My
station manned by 2 people went through over 10 gallons of ice water pouring
it over our and driver's firesuits/clothes and drinking to stay hydrated.
We watch each other's a.ses and help out to keep the races going, really is
that simple and important.

I really enjoy it.  You don't get paid, it's all volunteer, and the VAST
majority of drivers really appreciate you coming out and doing it because
without us, they don't race.  Period.

If you'd like to look into it, go to
http://www.scca.org/Inside/Index.asp?IdS=0375AF-F584FF0&Reference=RegionalSites&~=
to find your division and region, then go to the region list and look for
club racing.  Somewhere you will find a worker coordinator of F&C Chief
title.  If not, just look for the Regional Executive and send them an email
asking how you can get involved.

I wasn't kidding about workers being in terribly short supply.  There have
been races cancelled this year because there weren't enough workers to
satisfy insurance requirements.  Pretty much everyone is welcomed regardless
of age, sex, race, whatever.  You do need to be in reasonably good shape,
but you don't have to be Superman (or woman, and over half the workers are
ladies)  All you have to do is love racing and want to help.

If you do get involved you're going to want to go to Crash Fire Rescue
school, which happens every year, because as corner workers we ARE the first
on the scene EVERY time, so we need to have the basics down and have it
second nature in fighting fire and crash recovery/rescue.

All of the specialties I talked about earlier are crying for help, but I
think that F&C probably needs the most people because it takes the most.
For instance, running the long course at Heartland Park insurance mandates
we have 14 stations manned with a minimum of 2 people per station.  4 is
much better, but we almost NEVER have that many.   2 workers is pretty dicey
and more than once we have had to have BOTH people run to assist and throw
our communications to the next station that can see us and what's going on
the best.  In the case of HPT, that means 28 people for F&C, minimum, while
start needs 3, hospitality 3 or 4, registration maybe 5 when it's busy, only
1 later on.  Timing and Scoring needs a lot of people because while SCCA now
uses transponders for electronic scoring, it doesn't always work properly
and so there is always manual tabulation going on concurrently.

Whatever you like to do, there's job for you if you want to get involved.
If you or anyone else have any other questions email me at
jstricke@rwisp.com and I'll be happy to get you more information.

John Stricker
Mr Potatohead - 22 Jul 2006 01:50 GMT
>> What do you mean "workers"? Volunteers at events? There does seem to be a
>> decline in interest levels. These things are cyclical.

I still think part of it's cyclical but perhaps not
as much and over a longer cycle. My own life wanders
in and out of interests and I think many people are
that way. Here in the east, there isn't near as much
racing as down south or farther west. A few years
back we affiliated with Mid Atlantic Fiero (MAFOA)
and started a New England club, NEFA. Things were
off to a good start but as Fieros get older and more
useless to the easy-riders, the clubs get sorted out
amongst the old-timers who like the social aspects
and working on their cars themselves. We have some
really good people but they have to work like hell
to get up some interest, it seems.

I keep hoping that we'll get as hot and heavy as the
Studebaker people, for example. But they have years
on us and a bigger selection of clunkers to mess
around with. Very few racers in either crowd, I'm
sorry to say. And this at a time when insurance
companies are making it harder and harder to have
events.

My thoughts are that you hang in there as long as
you can... and enjoy doing it. The world is changing
and cars have lost some of that appeal that makes
them fun. Driving is no fun anymore, hard to find a
road that you have to steer the wheel, everything is
straight. Who wants our old shitboxes when you can
wow everyone with a storebought impressomobile and
never have to even clean the whitewalls.

But I still say that the American car enthusiast
will be coming around again. Amateur racing will
again be the thing to do and more people will be
doing it.

When I started putting around with cars, we had an
old Navy base that they let us drag our old Fords
and Chevys -- normal street cars. Now look at
things. The average guy with a modestly souped-up
streetmobile can't find a place to burn rubber but
the millionaire clown with a yen for greatness and
an endless budget for machinery and men to do the
work for him will. About as interesting as watching
paint dry. Gimme the dirt circuit. :-)

This is the dilemma you face and we all do. Drat TV
and sedatives, beer and football. But enjoy it while
you can and stop when it becomes a pain. I wish I
had the stamina to get involved again, but life is
just too demanding and the potato has a few more
wrinkles.

What sort of crowds are you turning out? All who
want to watch and none who want to work... or less
people all around?

> Tater,
>
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>
> John Stricker
cselby@mts.net - 22 Jul 2006 12:08 GMT
>I still think part of it's cyclical but perhaps not
>as much and over a longer cycle. My own life wanders
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>really good people but they have to work like hell
>to get up some interest, it seems.

This may be somewhat irrelevent, but Fred's got it about right.  I
watch this group daily, even if I have nothing to post or answers for
others.   It's mostly interest and some ambition.  I spend more time
with my 4yr old grandson than on the cars even though he likes to
help.  Lately, I'm spending more and more time working wood for my
next grandkid due in Sept.   My grandson helps with the sawdust.

I'd love to tell you about the 84 I bought in California 3 yrs ago
that was in tough shape but got me home to Winnipeg, Canada.

And how I resewed new seat upholstery using the old torn one as a
pattern and how I cursed because I bought velour that kept 'walking'
as I stitched.  And how many times I took it apart again to redo it
until I got it right.

And how I pulled the L4 engine from a 86 Celebrity, rebuilt it for the
Fiero two yrs ago and it's still sitting on the floor.

And how the car looks in black metalic paint by Schwab ( like Maco) .
Must have been a paint your car for 79$ special.   The bastards
painted everything, door seals, sun roof seal, sail panels, all the
'trim'  in the same shitty paint.   The silly twits masked the rear
licence plate and the bumper underneath is not painted - and it shows.

On a bright note the car has 0 rust and I don't winter drive it.

And how I'm still looking for a Metric speedo head with cruise control
in any condition.   Don't make me stand on a street corner begging for
this one.

When I get some ambition and put that engine in, I'll start to peal
that crappy paint off and redo it in a non-metalic acrylic.

I'd like tell you all that stuff, if I had the ambition.

Pete
Mr Potatohead - 22 Jul 2006 18:49 GMT
>> I still think part of it's cyclical but perhaps not
>> as much and over a longer cycle. My own life wanders
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>
> Pete

Well if you do ever get the ambition, we'd like to
hear it. :-)
SkipGundlach@gmail.com - 19 Jul 2006 01:44 GMT
Hi, Tater,

> I'm screwing with boats, not cars, right now. I'm
> going to Canada for a couple weeks. That's my
> excuse. What's yours for not writing here? Is Skip
> finally underway... boat in order and Lydia totally
> into being a tar?

Not yet.  But she's officially quit her job, and I go home Friday to
wrap up the last of it there, medical, barbershop quartet, family
goodbyes, load the van, and boogie back to the boat, where we're still
working on it.

But, it's getting close, Lydia's moving aboard on the first, and with
any luck we'll have her splashed in a month or so, thence to do sea
trials for as long as we need to feel comfortable, and off we go.

It's very painful to give up the last Fiero (see my last post) but none
of our kids wants it, and just like the ski boat, it won't go on the
boat, so it has to get sold.

My silence of late is complicated by my inability to get newsgroups
directly on the boat - I have to use googlegroups, which, like
everything else web-based, I absolutely hate (as compared to email
style in usenet listings).

So, my apologies for my absence.  You recall, of course, that you're
the reason I re-entered the Fiero world via Ed Parks' encouragement for
Ol' Blue, then convincing me that buying another altogether was a good
idea, and, eventually, many years later, doing the sex change which got
the GT to accept the running gear from Ol' Blue, introducing Lydia to
the joys of Fiero ownership :{))

So, what sort of boating are *you* messing with?

L8R

Skip and Lydia, not cast off yet, but getting much closer

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig   KI4MPC
See our galleries at http://justpickone.org/skip/gallery/

"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely
nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing,
messing-about-in-boats; messing about in boats-or *with* boats.
In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter.  Nothing seems really to matter,
that's the charm of it.
Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never
get anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to
do, and you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."
ThaDriver - 19 Jul 2006 03:19 GMT
Well I finally downloaded Opera on this old computer (haven't had time to
fix the other 'puters), so I'm back via Talk About Autos. However, I've
been working on the tailend of the Formula so I haven't had much spare
time: found an '84 Vette rear bumper in glass so I had something to work
with - 50+ hours later it now has a 'glass rear bumper, & seperate
taillight panel with six lights. Looks totally different from anything
else on a Fiero. :-D
Plan to pull molds to make myself some lightweight parts.
Will check in when I can...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.
Mr Potatohead - 19 Jul 2006 12:44 GMT
> Hi, Tater,
> snipt
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> the GT to accept the running gear from Ol' Blue, introducing Lydia to
> the joys of Fiero ownership :{))

I had no idea that my input registered as well as it
did. I'm mighty pleased. :-)

> So, what sort of boating are *you* messing with?

I bought a Lockley Newport 26, which I can find
nothing about on the internet, of course. Smaller
ones, sure. But it's just for day sailing around
Narragansett Bay (RI) and if I get really into it, I
might venture out into Buzzards Bay or Block Island
Sound. Depends. I haven't been sailing in 40 years.
Except for one 8-day trip with a friend a few years
back. But I'm thinking of selling all real estate
and this would give me a crash pad in this area
whilst I travel the globe in more traditional modes.

This year is such a blitz with projects that I
haven't had a chance to properly outfit it. Still
haven't got the jib rigged, for example. But the
boat had sat in previous owner's yard for several
years and it needs a bit of work. If I get out at
all this year, it will be trials only -- day
sailing, back to boatyard at night.

Some strange (to me) rigging on this boat, but with
the availability of many knowledgeable sailors in
the area, things are coming together. My lot has
usually been with powerboat people and it's
difficult to get into coiling lines on the deck and
all that discipline that goes into sailing.

I'll probably spend the winter at house in Florida
and get back into sailing in earnest in the Spring.

Regarding internet, if you just get a line in, can't
you access newsgroups with Netscape?

Anyway, been following your dream and hope it's all
you want it to be.
Boomtastic Racing - 24 Jul 2006 04:48 GMT
>I'm screwing with boats, not cars, right now. I'm
>going to Canada for a couple weeks. That's my
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>
>El Senor Patatacabeza

I'm sorry I haven't been here in a while. I have WAY too many excuses,
but here goes. Take your pick:

a) Someone posted "Mitchell On Demand" in another group, and I figured
I'd better grab a copy while I could. :) 5 dual layer DVDs worth of
data takes a while to d/l, and locks up the newsreader!!

b) I've been working on/around my new house. Yardwork sucks.

c) I've been working on my latest acquisition, a yellow Formula that
was submerged by Katrina's waters. I'm stripping it down, getting the
mud out of it, removing what's rusted (there's a LOT) and fixing what
isn't, and getting ready to swap pieces from my other yellow Formula
into this one (the other, a northern car, has a rusted frame).

d) The national car club's web host has been a jerk lately, shutting
down our email multiple times now because someone (or multiple people)
have been spoofing the domain (as their return address) for their
illegal purposes. In an average 12 hours, 20,000 bounce-back emails
are returned. We have no control over this, but somehow the ISP
(HostRocket) thinks that shutting down the email - which penalizes us
- is the solution. I complain, they turn it back on, then they shut it
off again. It's a vicious circle. (Hmm - will have to look into
whether their shutting off our email violates their "100% uptime"
guarantee, and if refunds are in order ...)

e) The new job (yes, I'm employed again!) is sucking up hours. I work
the standard 8, but do after hours training which is necessary if I
want to keep working as it helps me out. Catch 22.

f) The dog ate my laptop, and I am awaiting it's return. Don't ask how
I'm typing this ...........

So take your pick, but I'm glad I'm missed! As for Ed joining this
group, it'll probably never happen unless we get him on a web-based
reader. Add to this that he's on dial-up (the shop is too far out for
high-speed, or at least it was a year ago - I should check again just
for kicks ..). He's Fiero smart but computer dumb, and I mean that in
a good way. :) I still have to teach him how to attach pictures to
emails, right after I teach him how to get pictures out of the digital
camera, which is right after I teach him how to take the pictures ...

LOL

Eric
John Craker - 24 Jul 2006 13:52 GMT
> a) Someone posted "Mitchell On Demand" in another group, and I figured
> I'd better grab a copy while I could. :) 5 dual layer DVDs worth of
> data takes a while to d/l, and locks up the newsreader!!

I'm liking this excuse the best - assuming you care to mention WHICH n/g so
I can 'investigate' this matter further by d/l'ing it myself just to confirm
the validity of the said excuse.  ;)
Boomtastic Racing - 25 Jul 2006 00:43 GMT
>> a) Someone posted "Mitchell On Demand" in another group, and I figured
>> I'd better grab a copy while I could. :) 5 dual layer DVDs worth of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I can 'investigate' this matter further by d/l'ing it myself just to confirm
>the validity of the said excuse.  ;)

You may find looking in alt.binaries.cd.image to be worthwhile .. :)
Mr Potatohead - 24 Jul 2006 16:26 GMT
> So take your pick, but I'm glad I'm missed! As for Ed joining this
> group, it'll probably never happen unless we get him on a web-based
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> emails, right after I teach him how to get pictures out of the digital
> camera, which is right after I teach him how to take the pictures ...

All justifiable excuses, Boomer.

Ed was sleeping one day, taking an afternoon power
nap, when someone snuck into his little nap chamber
and inserted everything there was to know about
Fieros into his noodle. When he woke up, he didn't
know why he knew all this stuff but figured he
better put it to use or whomever put it there would
siphon it back out. He assumed he was on a mission
from god and he's performed well... better than
expected.

Unfortunately... there it stops. Sad but true. Put a
digital camera in his hand and he puts it to his
ear. Give him an iPod and he tries to light a
cigarette with it. Mention newsgroup and he pictures
a bunch of people sharing a newspaper.

He's a one-trick dog, no doubt about that. :-)

Helluva a guy though and one of My personal favorite
characters.
Mr Potatohead - 25 Jul 2006 12:40 GMT
I hope everyone who read this little lark on Ed
Parks understands that it is an inside joke on one
of the best guys in the universe. I have been a
guest at the Fiero campsite, the Parks home several
times and had a great time each visit.

Ed, literally, spends hours each days answering
emails and giving free advice about Fieros and he
always starts out with the addressee's name and he's
always polite, no matter how frustrating the topic.

His wisdom on Fieros aside, he is equally known --
and will admit himself -- to have an abysmal lack of
knowledge about the functions of a computer and the
internet. His one singular porthole into the
technology is email. This was a couple years ago, of
course. He might have looked at a website since then.

Just want to clear this up for any newbies who might
be out there. One only jokes like that about people
when one has a profound respect for them. Otherwise
one is a fool and a less-than-dignified individual.

>> So take your pick, but I'm glad I'm missed! As for Ed joining this
>> group, it'll probably never happen unless we get him on a web-based
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Helluva a guy though and one of My personal favorite characters.
SkipGundlach@gmail.com - 29 Jul 2006 20:07 GMT
From: "Skip Gundlach" <skipgundlach@earthlink.net>
To: <fiero@yahoogroups.com>; <fiero-list@fiero.org>
Cc: <royrau@juno.com>
Subject: A chapter's end...
Date: Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:46 PM

Well, today, I sent off my last Fiero.

Just shy of 21 years into them (my first was a silver 86 SE bought in
85; he
became "Ol' Blue" on a repaint), New Blue/ C'Ol' Blue (he had AC when I

didn't know it), and 6 cars later, we've had to close that chapter of
our
lives.

We're getting on a boat, and don't expect to come back.  So, he had to
go.
The good news is he's going to a great enthusiast, and by cc of this
posting, has the addresses of these groups.  Look for him here, and in
the
gafiero.org lists, and probably also in fiero.nl.

It's actually a reward for his son, but it's evident that they are
automotive enthusiasts with a great history behind them. This opens
their
Fiero chapter...

It was definitely a mixed feeling as I handed him the keys, title and
maintenance folder; I've had WAY too much fun in these cars...

But now, we'll have fun cruising.  We'll be on the boat for the last of
the
refit (you thought rehabbing a Fiero was expen$$$ive!), and then we're
outta
here.  I'm happy to hear from Fiero nuts at any time, but I'm
discontinuing
our subscriptions, as wifi has its limits aboard...

L8R

Skip and Lydia, about to be gone...

Morgan 461 #2
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nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing
about in
boats-or *with* boats.
In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter.  Nothing seems really to matter,
that's
the charm of it.
Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never
get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to
do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."
 
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