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Hi I'm looking to get a new Nissan Patrol, want to get the 3.0 Litre turbodiesel mainly for its relative economy. Should I get the manual or the auto. The specs say the engine on the manual produces 380 Nm torque at the flywheel, but the one on the automatic does only 354 Nm. I tried the manual, but the stick keeps vibrating in the cabin, and I know this is going to get on my nerves on long drives. Also is it possible to sleep in the rear? I'm only 173 cm tall. Read somwhere that the floor might not be flat with the seats up. Thanks. if you want economy you just answered your own question > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thanks. > if you want economy you just answered your own question Not that easy - the nrma review of the 2005 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TD states 10.8 lphkms for the manual and 10.7 for the auto. Looks like whatever they did to up the torque on the manual engine increased the fuel consumption. I think they widened the power band on the manual engine, because the engine kept dropping below boost in the previous year's models. My four wheel driving is going to be limited to fire trails, basically need a big camping car to take on holidays. If I tow anything ever, it will be one of those pop top caravans that will be lighter than a full sized caravan. well if you believe those figures then good luck > Not that easy - the nrma review of the 2005 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TD states > 10.8 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > one of those pop top caravans that will be lighter than a full sized > caravan. > well if you believe those figures then good luck If you take economy out of the equation, what would you recommend? Basically I want to know if the increase in NVH is worth the extra 26 Nm, given that I am not contemplating any offroad work or heavy towing that may require the extra torque. I'd also like to know if the cargo space after folding up the last two rows of seats, is flat or bumpy. You aint kiddin there! >well if you believe those figures then good luck Theres a 99 model GU 4.2 forsale at FTG Nissan ... $10,000! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 660,000klms on it More proof the 4.2 is the way to go. my boss got a 3lt t/d and it is as gutless as a pisece of. > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thanks. Its probably one of the ones with holes in the pistons. or its a 3ltr GQ. >my boss got a 3lt t/d and it is as gutless as a pisece of. its a gu and it was rebuilt at work. new everything. still a piece of crap got to a 4.2 if your going to tow > Its probably one of the ones with holes in the pistons. > > or its a 3ltr GQ. > >>my boss got a 3lt t/d and it is as gutless as a pisece of. Apparently, the 3.0L TD is not too bad with the Dtronic chip installed. And the hole in the pistons problem was fixed post 2001. Caused by dud cylinder castings, that didn't supply oil to no 3 & 4 pistons. > its a gu and it was rebuilt at work. new everything. still a piece of crap > got to a 4.2 if your going to tow [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > >>my boss got a 3lt t/d and it is as gutless as a pisece of. >Apparently, the 3.0L TD is not too bad with the Dtronic chip installed. The factory holes in the pistons also help. >And the hole in the pistons problem was fixed post 2001. There are still post 2001 models failing today. >Caused by dud cylinder castings, that didn't supply oil to no 3 & 4 pistons. no, actually it was a problem during assembly, when the cranks are installed, the Jig used was not correct, and the cranks bent the oil feeders when being fitted up. > Apparently, the 3.0L TD is not too bad with the Dtronic chip installed. Maybe as far as new buzz box motors go compared to a Hilux or Triton motor. Come back and tell us that when you've added 100,000km with no problems after installing an intercooled turbo running 18psi boost to a 250,000km motor like a mates 4.2. Or at least towed a caravan round Australia 3 times like a mates normally aspirated diesel with 500,000km on it. There's good reasons why truck motors haven't hallved in size :-) > And the hole in the pistons problem was fixed post 2001. Caused by dud > cylinder castings, that didn't supply oil to no 3 & 4 pistons. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > >> >>my boss got a 3lt t/d and it is as gutless as a pisece of. Its on a 3 year lease, so I'll be lucky to do 50,000kms by the end of lease. I don't tow anything heavier than a box trailer, which i can easlily tow with my other car. Heck, I didn't even order a towbar. I wouldn't be allowed to put an aftermarket turbo on it. Soaring fuel costs are a concern. Getting the td42 would have pushed me into the LCT bracket. Given the above, i feel the td30 was the better choice. > Come back and tell us that when you've added 100,000km with no problems > after installing an intercooled turbo running 18psi boost to a 250,000km [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >> > > >> >>my boss got a 3lt t/d and it is as gutless as a pisece of. |
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