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Peter Degotardi - 08 Oct 2005 08:43 GMT

Any suggestions/recommendations?
Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
off road box trailer is the next logical step.

($45,000 for a camper trailer, some people earn too much)

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Barnsey - 08 Oct 2005 09:37 GMT

> Any suggestions/recommendations?
> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
> off road box trailer is the next logical step.
>
> ($45,000 for a camper trailer, some people earn too much)

I'll post a link to some pics of my set up soon. Probably what you're after,
cost me $2500

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Barnsey - 08 Oct 2005 10:55 GMT

>> Any suggestions/recommendations?
>> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
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> I'll post a link to some pics of my set up soon. Probably what you're
> after, cost me $2500

That should read $2900.

Anyway, here's the link. I might do some more work on this web site next
week on night shift.

http://www.freewebs.com/barnseyandlynda/georgethecampingtrailer.htm

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Dave - 09 Oct 2005 07:40 GMT

> > I'll post a link to some pics of my set up soon. Probably what you're
> > after, cost me $2500
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>
> http://www.freewebs.com/barnseyandlynda/georgethecampingtrailer.htm

May I ask where the campsite those photos were taken is located, I am trying to get the family into camping
and it looks pretty civilized.
Think I scared them with the last trip.

Dave.

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Barnsey - 09 Oct 2005 08:34 GMT

>> > I'll post a link to some pics of my set up soon. Probably what you're
>> > after, cost me $2500
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>
> Dave.

20ks east of Charters Towers in Nth Qld. Great place to take the kids.
Bivoac Junction, on the Burdekin River, about 1 hours drive west from
Townsville. Costs $5 a night for an unpowered site.

Yeah it's a top spot. The bloke who owns it is the only draw back. He's a
true outback feral, who lives in a rusted out ex Sydney double decker bus
and likes to talk.......... and drink. Once you've got rid of him, it's a
great camping spot. There's lots of tame wildlife around, and the peace and
quiet of the outback is a fantastic

I prefer to buggar RIGHT off into the scrub, but for a quick get away, it's
a good destination. .

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Dave - 09 Oct 2005 10:13 GMT

> >> > I'll post a link to some pics of my set up soon. Probably what you're
> >> > after, cost me $2500
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> I prefer to buggar RIGHT off into the scrub, but for a quick get away, it's
> a good destination. .

Thanks for the info, might stick to the Big Bend area then. If the females with me cannot go without a proper
toilet as they call it they can just go for a drive to Fletchers creek as required.

Dave.

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Barnsey - 09 Oct 2005 22:50 GMT

> Thanks for the info, might stick to the Big Bend area then. If the females
> with me cannot go without a proper
> toilet as they call it they can just go for a drive to Fletchers creek as
> required.
>
> Dave.

Where are you Dave? In Townsville?

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Dave - 10 Oct 2005 13:24 GMT

> > Thanks for the info, might stick to the Big Bend area then. If the females
> > with me cannot go without a proper
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> >
> Where are you Dave? In Townsville?

Correct, out Black River way. Happily having the first drink of the night.

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Dave - 09 Oct 2005 07:47 GMT

> Anyway, here's the link. I might do some more work on this web site next
> week on night shift.
>
> http://www.freewebs.com/barnseyandlynda/georgethecampingtrailer.htm

May I ask where the campsite in those pictures is located, I am trying to get the family back into camping and
it looks civilized enough for them.

Dave.

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Scotty - 09 Oct 2005 08:21 GMT

>>> Any suggestions/recommendations?
>>> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
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>
> http://www.freewebs.com/barnseyandlynda/georgethecampingtrailer.htm

Barnsey, why havent you added an extra cone or wind deflector at the front
of the trailer? It looks like your towing a brick there. Any idea what the
all up weight is (before you add clothes and food etc).

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Barnsey - 09 Oct 2005 08:48 GMT

> Barnsey, why havent you added an extra cone or wind deflector at the front
> of the trailer? It looks like your towing a brick there. Any idea what the
> all up weight is (before you add clothes and food etc).

800kg. It's a cheaper rego in Qld because of its ........what do they call
it? mass?....TARE? It doesn't need brakes at any rate.

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Scotty - 09 Oct 2005 10:06 GMT

>> Barnsey, why havent you added an extra cone or wind deflector at the
>> front of the trailer? It looks like your towing a brick there. Any idea
>> what the all up weight is (before you add clothes and food etc).
>>
> 800kg. It's a cheaper rego in Qld because of its ........what do they call
> it? mass?....TARE? It doesn't need brakes at any rate.

Ummm, I think that if you have a wee read on the rules you will find that
the limit for no brakes is 750Kg. Under 750kg also allows you not to
require a roadworthy before selling a trailer. I found this out after a guy
that I bought a ski boat off paid 100's of dollars for upgrading brakes and
getting a roadworthy that wasnt required. We both felt a lot better once
done though.

800Kgs is really quite heavy I thought. Any idea what these $4,500 units
weigh?

Ive only got a V6 3litre Toyota so weight is of some importance for me.

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Kevcat - 10 Oct 2005 01:45 GMT

normally the basic box trailer based campers weight in at around
300kgs(with tent, bed and kitchen), fill the water tank, gas and jerry
cans, food and other stuff, extra awnings and your looking at double
that for a long trip

but they can vary quite a bit depending on the options and materials
used(there was a stainless steel one at the Brisbane camp show)
the suspensions can add quite a bit, heavy independent coil systems, but
you will know which ones will be heavy as they will have brakes fitted

Kev

> >> Barnsey, why havent you added an extra cone or wind deflector at the
> >> front of the trailer? It looks like your towing a brick there. Any idea
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>
> Ive only got a V6 3litre Toyota so weight is of some importance for me.

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Birdman - 08 Oct 2005 10:21 GMT

www.obrienstrailers.com.au

Personally I have a Koala Camper Trailer that I scored, the dude kept
the camper tralier bit to put on a ute, and sold the box trailer :)

BTW, camper trailers start at about $4000 (saw em at last yrs caravan
and camping show at Sandown)

>Any suggestions/recommendations?
>Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
>off road box trailer is the next logical step.
>
>($45,000 for a camper trailer, some people earn too much)

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Rocatanski - 08 Oct 2005 11:26 GMT

If you are looking at $45,000 for a camper you are looking at a caravan. In
my mind a camper trailer at best has a place to cook out of the weather if
need be, a bed and enough room for a couple swags on the floor and maybe a
bit more room under cover. I have just looked at Sunset Campers in Ballarat
Victoria today, the top of the range was about $13,000. It was 7x4 heavy
duty trailer with 20' sides a small kitchen on the tailgate, electric
brakes, 3500 kg off-road coupling, Large tool box, Battery pack, 16' wheels,
and a triple beam draw bar plus a lot more. It would have to be the most
sturdy trailer I have seen for under $20,000. If you like call them on
0409532374.
Hope this helps. Roc.

> Any suggestions/recommendations?
> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
> off road box trailer is the next logical step.
>
> ($45,000 for a camper trailer, some people earn too much)

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Kevcat - 08 Oct 2005 12:57 GMT

Brisbane's Caravan & Camping show had camper trailers starting at $4000
for onroad and for another $500 for offroad models

there was one lot whp also hire them out had one model with extra high
sides, queen bed on top and a double bed underneatb
sleeps 4 in the trailer leaving the rest of the tent area for other
things

this is the one I am going to hire for a trip next year to the cape
$300 a week and that included two folding chairs, gas bottle, stove and
for an extra $40 a week a large 3 way fridge/freezer

or $175 for a weekend(pick up Thursday, return Tuesday)

Kev

> Any suggestions/recommendations?
> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
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Rocatanski - 09 Oct 2005 00:11 GMT

Hi kev, I have seen these $4500 offroad campers and the reason I have not
got one is I think one trip up the cape etc and they won't come back. We saw
two broken on one trip up the centre. My main beef is the draw bar systems
and the springs look weak and thats where these two broke,other than that I
agree why do you need $5000 solar panels LED lights in your tent etc, five
grand buts a lot of torch batteries.

> Brisbane's Caravan & Camping show had camper trailers starting at $4000
> for onroad and for another $500 for offroad models
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Rainbow Warrior - 09 Oct 2005 01:44 GMT

> Hi kev, I have seen these $4500 offroad campers and the reason I have not
> got one is I think one trip up the cape etc and they won't come back. We
> saw two broken on one trip up the centre. My main beef is the draw bar
> systems and the springs look weak and thats where these two broke,other
> than that I agree why do you need $5000 solar panels LED lights in your
> tent etc, five grand buts a lot of torch batteries.

$39 Supercheap rechargeable fluro lantern is still going strong after 3
years, it's enough to read by.

>> Brisbane's Caravan & Camping show had camper trailers starting at $4000
>> for onroad and for another $500 for offroad models
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Jim - 09 Oct 2005 07:59 GMT

> Any suggestions/recommendations?
> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
> off road box trailer is the next logical step.
>
> ($45,000 for a camper trailer, some people earn too much)

And the prices are to help in sharing it around ? :)))))

Friend had a KK and he had problems with it, around 25K at the time, so he
bought an "Ultimate", the thing that looks like a ship. Only around 45K from
memory.
And I agree with you.
One of our problems in this country is the obscene amount that dishonest
dillpickles can "earn" running the ripoff money making machines, while the
average honest Joe struggles to meet his utilities bills.
No honesty ? No worries.

Cheers
Jim

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Barnsey - 09 Oct 2005 08:43 GMT

>> Any suggestions/recommendations?
>> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
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> Cheers
> Jim

What do you really need from a camping trailer?

I'm probably this forums resident tight arse, but who can really justify
large anounts of money sitting in the drive way / back yard doing nothing
for 300 days of the year?

For me I need a comfy bed, a gas stove, shade, and a fridge to keep the beer
cold.......and the food cold. (not in oredr of priorities)

I've achieved this for under $3k

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Peter Degotardi - 09 Oct 2005 11:28 GMT

> What do you really need from a camping trailer?

When it comes down to it, I probably don't need a
camping trailer at all. We're actually very happy
with the large double dome tent we have.

What started this train of thought was the last trip.
If you've looked at the photos, we were packed to the 9's
( http://au.geocities.com/flatmat_degotardi/oct2005/150_5042.JPG )
Space was so tight, we actually had to leave some of
the beer behind!!!

It takes us 2 hours to pull down a campsite and get
it packed into the car - too long. A camper trailer
was the first thought as to how to speed the process
up. A box trailer was the second - it would reduce
the weight inside as well.

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Jim - 09 Oct 2005 22:31 GMT

> It takes us 2 hours to pull down a campsite and get
> it packed into the car - too long. A camper trailer
> was the first thought as to how to speed the process
> up. A box trailer was the second - it would reduce
> the weight inside as well.

2 hours ? Geez some people must have a comfortable camp.
If you can't pack and post in 20 mts max, the travelling day is too short

:)))) And that's for a tent etc but only overnight...spend a few days and

the junk accumulates. Those with a swag will probably laugh , they've
usually left way before me.

Cheers
Jim

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Peter Degotardi - 09 Oct 2005 23:23 GMT

> 2 hours ? Geez some people must have a comfortable camp.

Yep! http://au.geocities.com/flatmat_degotardi/oct2005/CampSite.jpg

The only things not visible in that photo are the table and four
chairs which were inside at the time.

Nothing flash (well ok, the solar powered garden lights marking
out the guy ropes around the tent are a little over the top, but
they've stopped people tripping over them in the night)

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Rocatanski - 10 Oct 2005 01:05 GMT

Peter I know what you mean when we go up into the mountians for our easter
fishing trip it takes about 1 1/2 hours to pack up, but we have everthing
hot water service, kitchen sink the lot. But when we have hired a camper and
been traveling we can wake up at
bird call 5 am and be on the road in 20 mins and then we stop for breakfast
2-3 hours up the road, side out the kitchen put on the billy kids have
cornflakes,toast etc and 30 mins later we are back on the road.
When I find a camper that I like at the right price I will but it, but as it
stands I like a bit of this one and a bit of that one but not one that is a
full package I may have to get one made to my specs.

>> 2 hours ? Geez some people must have a comfortable camp.
>
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> out the guy ropes around the tent are a little over the top, but
> they've stopped people tripping over them in the night)

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Peter Degotardi - 10 Oct 2005 01:14 GMT

> When I find a camper that I like at the right price I will but it, but as it
> stands I like a bit of this one and a bit of that one but not one that is a
> full package I may have to get one made to my specs.

If I had the money http://www.opensky.com.au/crossbow.htm
(or even the Oryx)

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Tony Smith - 10 Oct 2005 01:06 GMT

> Nothing flash (well ok, the solar powered garden lights marking
> out the guy ropes around the tent are a little over the top, but
> they've stopped people tripping over them in the night)

What a bloody good idea!
I'm going to pinch that one, especially as I've just been past the
local discount wharehouse and they are flogging solar garden lamps for
$3.99

Tony Smith

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Scotty - 10 Oct 2005 02:36 GMT

>> Nothing flash (well ok, the solar powered garden lights marking
>> out the guy ropes around the tent are a little over the top, but
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>
> Tony Smith

Yeah I was starting to think "What a tosser, friggen garden lights..." then
I shut me damn mouth and though about it, thats a great idea.

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Peter Degotardi - 10 Oct 2005 05:01 GMT

> Yeah I was starting to think "What a tosser, friggen garden lights..." then
> I shut me damn mouth and though about it, thats a great idea.

Everybody strives to leave their mark on the world.
Trip-proofing tents is the best I've been able to do.

($6 each at Bunnings when I bought them)

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Rocatanski - 10 Oct 2005 06:04 GMT

What you mean you have not got them Tony. Well bugger me.

>> Nothing flash (well ok, the solar powered garden lights marking
>> out the guy ropes around the tent are a little over the top, but
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>
> Tony Smith

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Kevcat - 10 Oct 2005 01:23 GMT

Peter
just hire one

at around $300 a week
and 1/2 that for a 4 day weekend
they usually include a few extras like gas bottles. stove, chairs, table
basically you just chuck in your food and clothes and your a way

and if it breaks
well it's not yours

Kev

> > What do you really need from a camping trailer?
>
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Figjam - 10 Oct 2005 06:55 GMT

Thats a realy good attitude to have now isnt it

> Peter
> just hire one
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Phred - 10 Oct 2005 11:07 GMT

>> What do you really need from a camping trailer?
>
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>If you've looked at the photos, we were packed to the 9's
>( http://au.geocities.com/flatmat_degotardi/oct2005/150_5042.JPG )

Is that thing legal to drive on our roads? ;-)

>Space was so tight, we actually had to leave some of
>the beer behind!!!
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>up. A box trailer was the second - it would reduce
>the weight inside as well.

Cheers, Phred.

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Scotty - 10 Oct 2005 11:11 GMT

>>What started this train of thought was the last trip.
>>If you've looked at the photos, we were packed to the 9's
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>>Space was so tight, we actually had to leave some of
>>the beer behind!!!

Yes Phred, even Mitsubishis can get roadworthies these days.

;-)

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Axel Hammer - 10 Oct 2005 05:46 GMT

Peter Degotardi schrieb:

> Any suggestions/recommendations?
> Can't go for the full camper trailer, so a decent
> off road box trailer is the next logical step.

As being owner of a Hog-Trailer (in the earlier version) you may try to
use one that allows the pulling vehicle's wheels to be fitted. May be
helpful sometimes.

Axel

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