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Jim - 24 Oct 2005 10:41 GMT
Pinched from the Exploroz site.
"we have this story first hand from Theo from Birdsville Auto who found and
recovered a vehicle whose driver had been missing for 6 months -
unfortunately found deceased with the vehicle. She had made a wrong turn on
the Walkers Crossing Track and had ended up running out of fuel on the
southern end of Pandie Pandie station in an area that sees no traffic, or
station activity. She had plenty of water as she had stopped at a fencline
alongside an operational water tank and stayed with the vehicle. However the
tragedy is that she had no communications and was so far off the track that
there was no passer-bys to find her until now"
Birdman - 24 Oct 2005 11:11 GMT
apparently the whole story was on tghe news tonight
Kev - 24 Oct 2005 13:32 GMT
> apparently the whole story was on tghe news tonight

so she thought thatbhaving plenty of water in such a remote place would
be enough?
why do people still travel alone into places like this?

Kev
Birdman - 24 Oct 2005 15:05 GMT
they just dont realise how remote it is being 100's of kms from
ANYTHING, and having no phone signal, radios, etc etc..

>why do people still travel alone into places like this?
>
>Kev
Pisshead Pete - 24 Oct 2005 16:34 GMT
But all you need is a gun... and a waterproof GPS!

> they just dont realise how remote it is being 100's of kms from
> ANYTHING, and having no phone signal, radios, etc etc..
>
>>why do people still travel alone into places like this?
>>
>>Kev

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Rainbow Warrior - 24 Oct 2005 18:16 GMT
> But all you need is a gun... and a waterproof GPS!

Great you know exactly where you are dehydrating and hunting frill neck
lizards with a 303.

>> they just dont realise how remote it is being 100's of kms from
>> ANYTHING, and having no phone signal, radios, etc etc..
>>
>>>why do people still travel alone into places like this?
>>>
>>>Kev
Craig - 24 Oct 2005 23:32 GMT
>why do people still travel alone into places like this?

I know travelling alone isn't recommended, but in many cases having
someone with you doesn't help.

I often travel alone, both 4wding and hiking, and I'm a 'belts and
braces' sort of person when it comes to safety. I remember once hiking
around Mt Wellington in Tassie, I was carrying enough food and warm
clothing to stay overnight in snow if need be, which I always do, even
if on a short day walk. GPS, map, compass, torch, first aid kit, etc
etc.. Those that know Mt Wellington will know that it can fog in or
snow on a summers day with no warning.

I passed a group of four reasonably unfit looking walkers, and
overhead one of the gents (probably for the benefit of the girls)
remark how stupid it was to walk alone. All of them were wearing
shorts and t-shirts, two water bottles between them.  Thats it. Later
that morning fog came in so dense that you couldn't see  3 feet.
Walking around some of the scree slopes is quite dangerous like that,
so I just stopped, had a brew and waited for a while.

Likewise when I 4wd, HF, VHF, UHF radios.several GPS (and of course
maps etc..navigation is a bit of a passion of mine, I hoard maps like
they are gold), HF APRS, extensive first aid kit, food and water for
at least twice my trip length etc.

Again, I've been places where people are travelling in 2 car convoys,
but neigther car is well equiped

So, whilst as a general rule you are right, its not about travelling
alone or in a group, its about understanding risk and taking steps to
mitigate it.

Craig
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Phred - 25 Oct 2005 12:50 GMT
>>why do people still travel alone into places like this?
>
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>overhead one of the gents (probably for the benefit of the girls)
>remark how stupid it was to walk alone. All of them were wearing

This reminds me of an old bloke I knew back in the days when I was a
young bloke.  He was telling me about his weekend wandering around by
himself in the scrub up on the Lamb Range behind Cairns, when he ran
into another old bloke also wandering around alone up there.  As he
said to me later:  "I thought, 'What's a silly old fool like that
doing wandering around by himself in this country?'  Then I realised
that I was probably 10 years older than him!"  :-)

>shorts and t-shirts, two water bottles between them.  Thats it. Later
>that morning fog came in so dense that you couldn't see  3 feet.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>alone or in a group, its about understanding risk and taking steps to
>mitigate it.

Cheers, Phred.

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Jim - 26 Oct 2005 07:30 GMT
hahahaha...I've had pretty much the same experience several times.

Cheers
Jim

>>>why do people still travel alone into places like this?
>>
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>
> Cheers, Phred.
Figjam - 24 Oct 2005 12:27 GMT
Thats terrible

> Pinched from the Exploroz site.
> "we have this story first hand from Theo from Birdsville Auto who found
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> the tragedy is that she had no communications and was so far off the track
> that there was no passer-bys to find her until now"
Jim - 25 Oct 2005 00:43 GMT
Having travelled these areas for 30 years I'm always horrified at such
incidents. They are almost always due to a lack of knowledge and preparation
along with some bad luck. A track that is a doddle for a couple of well
prepared vehicles can turn into a nightmare for the single traveller at the
drop of a hat.
Despite glossy magazines and our "she'll be right" attitudes, remote area
travel requires more than a school atlas and a swag.
And despite any woman being as good as a man, the bush is not the place to
prove it.
Yes, I've taken the wrong turn. Sometimes I've worried about the fuel. I've
battled to change tyres, and worried about my vehicle. But I've always had
communications and enough gear to survive for an extended time. Someone
always knew roughly where I was and if I was Ok.
This lady took a wrong turn and ran out of fuel in an area where there are
few travellers. She apparently didn't take the essentials, a HF radio or sat
phone and an epirb. Any of them could of saved her life.
I feel sorry for her, it's a dreadful way to go.
I feel sorry for her family. And I feel sorry for those who found her and
had to retreive her.
Sadly it happens far too often.

Cheers
Jim
 
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