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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / January 2006Landcruiser 4.2TD
Hi Guys. I have finally found a nice 100 series Toyota Landcruiser 4.2L Turbo Diesel in reasonably good condition but with very high mileage for its age. It is a 98 model with 280,000 on the clock. Asking price is $25,000. I thought it sounded reasonable at first, but a few other people seem to think it is way overpriced with that kind of mileage. Any thoughts? Garry >Hi Guys. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Garry Garry, Which model? GXL? Poverty Pack Model(barn doors)? Sahara? It makes a bit of a difference on what running gear it has underneath(and so what you're paying for). Does it have a bullbar, extra spare tyre carrier, water tank, etc??? My 75 series landcruiser needed a bit of work on the drivetrain by the time it hit 290,000, but it hadnt had an easy life. In the space of 50k, we ended up replacing the clutch, and had the gearbox and transfer case overhauled, and the rear diff was rebuilt. One front wheel bearing failed as well, but this was more because my father hadnt bothered to service it regularly, and the 200k service (I think) includes replacing wheel bearings. Having said that, the 75 cruiser is now above the 320k mark, and is going strong. Beats the hell out of the pox-box Navara!!!!! What is the cause of the high milage (for its age)? Has it done a lot of towing? If I was buying that rig, I would factor the distinct possibility that you will have to spend money on some of this (or all). Have a good look at what servicing has already been done. I have a 78 series 4.2TD now(05 model), and the bloody engine can smoke the clutch if you try pulling something heavy in anything but Low4. We tried to pull-start a small tractor the other day, and I nearly regretted it profoundly! Things to consider, anyway... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back > Garry, > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back Hi Rod. Thanks for the information and yes I should have been more specific with "extra's" It is a GXL 4.2L TD with air and twin air bags. (According to the NRMA these are optional extra's.) It is an automatic. It does have a TJM bull bar but no tyre carrier. It does have a Hayman Reese Tow hitch but no electric brake mechanism so it may have been used just for towing smaller trailers rather than caravans etc. I am not sure about the water tank. The car drives very nice but it seemed to have a little shudder (possibly engine miss??) when it first shifted into 4th overdrive. I tried it a couple of times and it did it, but only in 4th overdrive and no other gear. It wasn't a huge thing, but was noticeable. Looking at the upholstery and the wear and tear on brake pedals etc (an old trick my grandfather taught me) it looks like the cars high mileage is due to country, long distance driving rather than lots of regular driving. Garry Garry Sounds more like the damper clutch in the converter Garry. Fig > Thanks for the information and yes I should have been more specific with > "extra's" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Garry > Sounds more like the damper clutch in the converter Garry. That sounds expensive????????? Garry It could jus need an oil flush. Fig >> Sounds more like the damper clutch in the converter Garry. > > That sounds expensive????????? > > Garry > It could jus need an oil flush. Thanks. I need to factor all these things into the equation. Mind you, the car comes with a 12 month warranty but must include a 1 month warranty to fix any problems at all. (Usually the 12 month warranties are not worth the paper they are written on.) Perhaps if I buy it I should go out and put it through its paces as best I can and then get any problems sorted out under warranty. or get the racq to check it out Fig > Thanks. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Perhaps if I buy it I should go out and put it through its paces as best I > can and then get any problems sorted out under warranty. > or get the racq to check it out Better still, I may give it a miss and save a bit more $$ and buy a 2000 + model with lower K's. I definitely want the 4.2TD. The Diesel seemed to run very smoothly. RACQ is a good idea too. I never thought of that. Garry :) Fig > Better still, I may give it a miss and save a bit more $$ and buy a 2000 + > model with lower K's. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Garry How small is small ? Fig > Which model? GXL? Poverty Pack Model(barn doors)? Sahara? It makes a > bit of a difference on what running gear it has underneath(and so what [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back >>Hi Guys. >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > you're paying for). Does it have a bullbar, extra spare tyre carrier, > water tank, etc??? It would be a GXL at least IFS model Toyota changed the turbo engine in the 100 series and it is only available in the IFS models Mate of mine who is on his second 100 series asked the question about getting a turbo diesel in a standard model and was told by two service departments that the new turbo engine design doesn't allow for the solid axle, how they get it into the 78 series is a mystery then, unless it sits higher in the chassis than in the 100 series you can still get a solid axle GXL, but you can only have it with the standard diesel and that model only comes with the solid axle, no IFS with standard diesel and no auto just 5 speed the 100 series turbo diesel also has about 30-40kw more power than the 78 series turbo diesel Kev > the 100 series turbo diesel also has about 30-40kw more power than the > 78 series turbo diesel The 100 series TD has an intercooler, the 78 series doesn't. Daryl >> the 100 series turbo diesel also has about 30-40kw more power than the >> 78 series turbo diesel > > The 100 series TD has an intercooler, the 78 series doesn't. > > Daryl the 2005-2006 models do the older ones didn't Kev >>> the 100 series turbo diesel also has about 30-40kw more power than >>> the 78 series turbo diesel [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the 2005-2006 models do > the older ones didn't Oh well, just when I thought I knew everything you have to go and prove me wrong:-) Daryl >>>> the 100 series turbo diesel also has about 30-40kw more power than >>>> the 78 series turbo diesel [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Oh well, just when I thought I knew everything you have to go and prove > me wrong:-) Don't ya hate bastards that do that and know everything? :) Kev > Don't ya hate bastards that do that and know everything? Yep, especially bloody know all truck drivers:-) Daryl >> Don't ya hate bastards that do that and know everything? > > Yep, especially bloody know all truck drivers:-) > > Daryl Don't get me started on truck drivers Kev > Hi Guys. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Garry Umm it's a diesel 280,000 klms is nothing just check around the intake to the turbo if there is a lot of oil there then the turbo may need a rebuild less than $1000 for this if you don't take it to Toyota if you don't get 600,000klms out of it then you are doing something wrong Kev >> Hi Guys. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Kev Hi Kev. Yes I realise that 280,000 is not much for a diesel. My Nissan Patrol has just on 500,000k's on it. It is not really the engine I am concerned about, but more so the rest of the vehicle including the drive train. And to a lesser extent, the resale value in case I do want to get rid of it later on. (upgrade to a later model etc.) Garry >>>Hi Guys. >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Garry Ok well to give you an idea I paid $26,000 for my 1999 cruiser 15 months ago it's a standard model 5 speed with 1HZ diesel(non turbo, turbo diesel was never available in the standard model and still isn't) 153,000klms it had the TJM winch bar with a winch, 3000kg Toyota tow bar, cloth seats and thats about it so $25,000 for a turbo diesel auto GXL is not bad at all is this through a dealer or private? if it's a private sale it will be because the dealers are only offering about $20,000 for a trade, if it's a dealer then have it checked by RACQ Kev |
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