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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / January 2006Dual Cab fuel economies
Folks, looking at buying a 2000 Holden rodeo 4x4 3.2ltr engine - anyone give me an accurate guide to fuel consumption - I have heard so many goods and bads? from 11L/100 to 17 lt to 100km. Anyone had experience? Also keen to find out fuel economy for the:- hilux 2.7 ltr petrol Triton 3.0lte petrol and the 6cyc Navara ??? as comparisions > Folks, looking at buying a 2000 Holden rodeo 4x4 3.2ltr engine - anyone > give me an accurate guide to fuel consumption - I have heard so many [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Triton 3.0lte petrol > and the 6cyc Navara ??? as comparisions If its any help my 2003 Xtra Cab Hilux 3.4 V6 averages 12.5lts/100klms. It doesn't seem to matter how I drive it the economy doesn't vary much except when towing a boat then it goes up significantly as you would expect. AFAIK none of the Jap 4X4 petrol utes are particularly economical, if fuel economy is a major concern buy a diesel. Daryl >> Folks, looking at buying a 2000 Holden rodeo 4x4 3.2ltr engine - anyone >> give me an accurate guide to fuel consumption - I have heard so many [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Daryl Yep they are all pathetic, getting simmilar fuel figures to the Patrol/Cruiser/Pajero and others BTW why only the 2.7L 4cyl Hilux when there is a 4L V6 version out now all the others you mentioned are V6 Kev Mate, the budget only extends to $20K = 5 0r 6 yo anything . The hilux 2.7 only choice in that time frame, it has a reasonable hp @108kw, and good torque 195nm if i remember right. Not interested in chugging around in a diesal...... > Mate, the budget only extends to $20K = 5 0r 6 yo anything . The > hilux 2.7 only choice in that time frame, it has a reasonable hp > @108kw, and good torque 195nm if i remember right. > > Not interested in chugging around in a diesal...... The turbo diesel of the same year as mine has approx 20kw less than the 3.4lt petrol but it has more torque, on the road the performance of the TD isn't much different to the petrol. No "chugging" involved if you have a turbo:-) Daryl > Mate, the budget only extends to $20K = 5 0r 6 yo anything . The > hilux 2.7 only choice in that time frame, it has a reasonable hp > @108kw, and good torque 195nm if i remember right. > > Not interested in chugging around in a diesal...... Ahh ok What the Hilux loses in kw and torque to the others(which is not much) it makes up in less weight due to not having the extra cyls do you really think the 2000 3L turbo diesels are slouches? and getting 200-300klms further on a tank of fuel is always a bonus Kev >> Mate, the budget only extends to $20K = 5 0r 6 yo anything . The >> hilux 2.7 only choice in that time frame, it has a reasonable hp [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Kev 3litre Deisel dual cab is no better than a single cab 2.8D. F**k it, just buy a petrol. >> Mate, the budget only extends to $20K = 5 0r 6 yo anything . The >> hilux 2.7 only choice in that time frame, it has a reasonable hp [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >and getting 200-300klms further on a tank of fuel is always a bonus Unless you grind to a halt in the middle of nowhere because the last lot of frigging fuel you bought out in the sticks was RS. Cheers, Phred.  SignatureppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID > Mate, the budget only extends to $20K = 5 0r 6 yo anything . The > hilux 2.7 only choice in that time frame, it has a reasonable hp > @108kw, and good torque 195nm if i remember right. > > Not interested in chugging around in a diesal...... Heard of Turbo Diesel's with intercoolers? My husband used the non 4WD version for work and that used more fuel than our disco. Quite surprising. >>> Folks, looking at buying a 2000 Holden rodeo 4x4 3.2ltr engine - anyone >>> give me an accurate guide to fuel consumption - I have heard so many [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Kev > Folks, looking at buying a 2000 Holden rodeo 4x4 3.2ltr engine - anyone > give me an accurate guide to fuel consumption - I have heard so many [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Triton 3.0lte petrol > and the 6cyc Navara ??? as comparisions Why would you bother buying a petrol ute? You'll be getting 350k's out of your tank whereas my 02 Rodeo twin cab intercooled 3.0l TD will get roughly 600 out of the same tank. Oh BTW, it's on the market if you want it? :)))) >> Folks, looking at buying a 2000 Holden rodeo 4x4 3.2ltr engine - anyone >> give me an accurate guide to fuel consumption - I have heard so many [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Why would you bother buying a petrol ute? As I may have mentioned before, couple of years ago a mate of mine switched to petrol a after about 10 years on diesel because he got sick of having problems with fuel quality out in the sticks. >You'll be getting 350k's out of >your tank whereas my 02 Rodeo twin cab intercooled 3.0l TD will get roughly >600 out of the same tank. Oh BTW, it's on the market if you want it? :)))) I must say I have noted at least one serious problem with at least some turbo diesels when bush bashing: the lack of torque at low revs, which can make it difficult to extricate yourself from tight spots. Also, some years ago there was a problem with diesel Tojos in sand due to the extra weight of the diesel donk. Would this would still be an issue with the modern turbo engines? Cheers, Phred. SignatureppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID > I must say I have noted at least one serious problem with at least > some turbo diesels when bush bashing: the lack of torque at low revs, > which can make it difficult to extricate yourself from tight spots. Until yesterday I thought this was a dead issue. Then i found myself on a narrow track having to execute a 50 point turn as there was no way I could cross the creek at the bottom of the particular hill I was on. Reversing involved having to climb an approximate 500mm "bund" of road material left by many passes of the grader over the years, the side was pretty steep but I reckoned "doable", and being mostly road metal in clay, I expected pretty good traction. The Toyota refused point blank to climb, just sat there, no wheel spin and wouldn't move.... Eventually I used low range and there was no problem, as I suspected, there was excellent traction and I was able to get the back wheels up to the top of the "bund and then go forward again. The major annoyance is that to get low range I currently have to select 4WD (there is a 10 second mod that I've never got around to doing) which meant that every time I wanted to go back I had to wait while the 4WD system cycled in (blasted ADD) and then out again when I wanted to go forward. When I got home I did a basic "stall" test and I'm a bit suspicious of the torque converter, but I think my problem up on the road was simply that it has no "guts" off idle......Which is pretty much the problem that used to be complained about in relation to Turbo diesels. If anyone here has a Hilux, Prado or Cruiser automatic, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could do a basic stall test on your converter and let me know. Aside from anything else, I suspect I'm about to buy a converter rebuild. Tony Smith > If anyone here has a Hilux, Prado or Cruiser automatic, I'd greatly > appreciate it if you could do a basic stall test on your converter and let > me know. Aside from anything else, I suspect I'm about to buy a converter > rebuild. > > Tony Smith Save ya troubles and install another pedal to the left of the brake. :o) >>If anyone here has a Hilux, Prado or Cruiser automatic, I'd greatly >>appreciate it if you could do a basic stall test on your converter and let [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Save ya troubles and install another pedal to the left of the brake. :o) Nothing like direct drive hey Kev >Anyone had experience? > >Also keen to find out fuel economy for the:- > hilux 2.7 ltr petrol > Triton 3.0lte petrol >and the 6cyc Navara ??? as comparisions Useless comparisons: Mates got a '98 dual cab GU patrol. 4.2 turbo diesel, intercooled, 16psi blow off, 7" combined spring and body lift, runs 35's, with 4.6 ratios. He gets 14 l / 100 klicks on highway. Got a '99 GU pratrol ute - similiar setup but with standard 4.1 ratios. 15 l / 100 klicks. Landy 200tdi - used to get 10.5 l per 100 klicks. She needs cleaning out and new injectors and a fuel pump rebuild. She runs at around 12 now. and me Sube Brumby when it had a six inch lift and 29" tyres used to push 16 l per 100! Tyres way too big for the standard gearing and engine. That was ouch factor. My turn LOL Our 1999 3lt Duel Cab 4wd Hilux used to get around 8lts/100kms on the highway. 2 Years ago we put a Turbo on it, it now goes like the clappers! I love it. BUT, the fuel economy has dropped to around 10lts / 100kms on the highway but in the bush it is far better than before we got the turbo added. I am a female, but I do 4wd. I have driven a freinds Rodeo 2005 TD 4wd in low range and it surges in and out, something we dont experience at low speeds in our Hilux. I would really feel cheated if I had a TD which surged at low revs in and out of turbo. Our old 12HT Cruiser did that and it was a bitch in the bush on rough slow roads because you surged non stop. Anyway, sorry no tech terms - but just input from a female |
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