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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / February 2006Misti Challenger wheel bearings help.....
Hi guys, been referred on from aus.cars.... Any Challenger experts out there? Was just wondering if the wheel bearings in my '99 Challenger are a DIY proposition? I've changed them in FWD and constant 4WD such as a TX3 and WRX: piece of cake. Well, with access to a press anyway. I think most of the older fourbies didn't use a sealed bearing like new cars do, and they could be cleaned out an re-packed. Is the Challenger the same? Also, will I have problems with the auto hubs on the front? I'm worried if I start dismantling all the obvious stuff to get to the bearings that I am going to suddenly have a spring in the roof of the workshop and a handfull of little bits on the ground....... Anyone???????? please please please > Hi guys, been referred on from aus.cars.... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > going to suddenly have a spring in the roof of the workshop and a handfull > of little bits on the ground....... On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:14:16 +0800, wrote: > Anyone???????? > > please please please Mitsi is pretty good about photocopying the relevant pages from their factory manuals for people determined to do their own work (or at least our local Dealer is, but they said it was company Policy). Have a look and then decide if it is within the ability of you and the gear you have. I've been trying since your first post to think of a way to tell you this without it hurting, but I can't. You probably will not get a definitive answer to your question here, because you see this is a discussion group for 4WD vehicles. 4WD in this context means vehicles likely to venture further off the bitumen than the dirt leading to the parking area at the local kids soccer ground. As a result, no one here is actually likely to own a Challenged Mitsi. And, more to the point, if they did, they would not admit it here. Nor will you find owners of BMW X5&X3, Musso, Mercedes younger than 10 years [wasn't there a member with a Unimog a couple of years back], Ford Exploders or the GM equivalent monstrosity. Similarly, Holdens and Falcons with AWD are not found here either, nor Subaru, Delicias etc. Capisce? Tony Smith "Tony Smith" <adolphuzspriggs@hotmail.com> wrote in message not found here either, nor Subaru, Delicias etc. > Capisce? > > Tony Smith I had a Subaru for about 1 year.......but I didn't talk about it much, except getting bogged....... and eventually killed. But at least it was an OLD Suby I still have one. But lets really not go there.... > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:14:16 +0800, wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Tony Smith Is a Cherokee an etc.?  SignaturePete .... The journey IS the destination. > Is a Cherokee an etc.? No that's an Indian. SignatureTony Smith >> Is a Cherokee an etc.? > > No that's an Indian. I thought they only made motorcycles. SignaturePete .... The journey IS the destination. > >> Is a Cherokee an etc.? > > > > No that's an Indian. > > I thought they only made motorcycles. Indian twins are made of tin and their riders live in sin (segment of genuine Harley Ad from a very long time ago). SignatureTony Smith > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:14:16 +0800, wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Tony Smith Gee Tony, you sound very knowledgeable. Maybe not about wheel bearing service in a car with auto hubs though so maybe you should but out: I mane "get the service manual" Gee whizz, I would not have thought of that. Trouble is you have forgotten to mention that the Challenger has the best wheel articulation (IE off road ability) of any of the mid size fourbies. It beat all mid sized fourbies hands down in magazine tests. Yes it is not a bloody Patrol or Cruiser with a 4" lift and airlockers front and back, but it does what I ask of it, which is take me down the softest beaches in Australia and get me over some rough stuff on the way. That is because is is *not* a bullshit AWD soft roader with no low range like the list you mention. In fact it is renowned for off road ability *at the expense of on-road handling* .... unlike the pieces of sh.t you list as being similar to the Challenger. How dare you accuse me of being the equivalent of a soccer mum just becasue I don't have a 100 series or GU with airlockers, a huge lift and a bloody 7L plus Detroit diesel in it. Didn't realise this was aus.cars.wankwank.i'vegot.abig. fourby. If you can't answer my question, don't get criticise my choice of fourby just so you can have a pull over how good yours is. If somebody asks a mechanical question and you have never done the job it yourself then f.ck off. Is your w.nk mobile serviced by someone else? Do you know what a spanner looks like Tony?????? PS: before you call me some johnny-come-lately, I've been on usenet (aus.cars and others) for 10 years and was referred here by the aus.cars guys as none of them knew the answer. So far I'm disappointed in the response. To all the other guys who are not w.nkers like Tony, thanks for your reply. On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:28 +0800, wrote: > Gee Tony, you sound very knowledgeable. Why thank you, but considering the demonstrable lack of intelligence of the source of the compliment, it doesn't seem worth much. > Maybe not about wheel bearing > service in a car with auto hubs though so maybe you should but out: I mane > "get the service manual" Gee whizz, I would not have thought of that. Well I'm sorry that you didn't think of going to your dealer and asking to see the service sheets (I did admittedly type "manual" in the original post, but the meaning was clear to anyone with a plus room temperature IQ I think. There's really no need to make a fuss and throw a tantrum, after all it is YOUR stupidity that failed to think of that as an option. Guess you will just have to pop down to your local dealer now that someone has been kind enough to point it out for you. You can find the way can't you? And by the way, if your dealer isn't minded top make photocopies of the factory service sheets available, just remember that up until a little earlier when I first saw your sooking, I would have offered to visit mine, run them through the office scanner and fax or email them to you. But you are of course sh.t out of luck now bucko. > Trouble is you have forgotten to mention that the Challenger has the best > wheel articulation (IE off road ability) of any of the mid size fourbies. Well bust my buttons, you must be very proud. and it probably has more slide out drinks holders than any other vehicle too. > It beat all mid sized fourbies hands down in magazine tests. Believing anything written in magazine tests places you in the doubtful intelligence category at the get go. The BMW X5 won a "best 4WD" award in one of them in the not too distant past. They are nice vehicle and I'd actually like to own one, but a 4WD that you would take off a formed road? I don't think so. > Yes it is not a > bloody Patrol or Cruiser with a 4" lift and airlockers front and back, but Well that's a relief, you do have some powers of observation and information processing after all and can tell the difference, there may be hope for you in a few years time when your current apparent excessive case of testosterone poisoning wears off, your brain starts working and you grow up a bit. > it does what I ask of it, which is take me down the softest beaches in > Australia and get me over some rough stuff on the way. How nice, so did my ex-army Kombi. Are you actually coming to a point sometime soon or are you just going to continue blathering? > That is because is is *not* a bullshit AWD soft roader with no low range > like the list you mention. In fact it is renowned for off road ability *at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I don't have a 100 series or GU with airlockers, a huge lift and a bloody 7L > plus Detroit diesel in it. Ah! so this was your point, take great umbrage at some things I didn't actually say and huff and puff with pointless indignation. I'm just so impressed......... I don't actually recall doing any of those things. But if you can point out the actual sentences, typed by me were I said them, I'll apologise unreservedly, perhaps in the absence of being able to provide that proof you will apologise? Or will that testosterone poisoning condition I mentioned earlier prevent that? > Didn't realise this was aus.cars.wankwank.i'vegot.abig. fourby. Actually it isn't, in spite of your best attempts to make it so! > If you can't answer my question, don't get criticise my choice of fourby > just so you can have a pull over how good yours is. If somebody asks a > mechanical question and you have never done the job it yourself then f.ck > off. Ah! about here that testosterone poisoning had a good grip and you thought you might impress me a little with your command of four letter words. I work every day with people who would scare most people sleepless, charming people like stand over merchants, murderers and the like. And whilst I admit that they scare the willies out of me, their command of invective is many time greater than yours, some of them can actually be quite creative in their use of it, they still don't impress me much. You aren't even in the hunt. > Is your w.nk mobile serviced by someone else? Do you know what a spanner > looks like Tony?????? Sigh.....Cretins never do learn to work out who they are picking a fight with, although in your case I beginning to think you lack the brains to even consider the more subtle aspects prior to the red mist descending and getting involved in a good stoush. Before I took up my current career, well actually before I took up what was my career before that, I was a tradesman. Actually I suppose I still AM a tradesman, just somewhat out of practice after 23 years. And yes I do know which end of a spanner does what. > PS: before you call me some johnny-come-lately, I've been on usenet > (aus.cars and others) for 10 years and was referred here by the aus.cars > guys as none of them knew the answer. So far I'm disappointed in the > response. By your apparent attitude, most of your time on Usenet has been spent with your hand firmly on it. And seeing as you are so comfortable and happy in aus.cars, why don't you crawl back there and rejoin your playmates? > To all the other guys who are not w.nkers like Tony, thanks for your reply. Oh, and by the way. Please pick up your dummy and take it with you, it's right over there by the door where you spat it. Tony Smith > On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:28 +0800, wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Well I'm sorry that you didn't think of going to your dealer and asking to > see the service sheets Errrr, sarcasm Tony. I *have* thought of that, we only have a Mitsi dealer kinda sorta attached to a Holden dealer in my (small ish) town and they said NO. At any rate it *is* a big ask as I'm asking them to do themselves out of a dollar. <snip> > And by the way, if your dealer isn't minded top make photocopies of the > factory service sheets available, just remember that up until a little > earlier when I first saw your sooking, I would have offered to visit mine, > run them through the office scanner and fax or email them to you. > > But you are of course sh.t out of luck now bucko. After your reply, which was full of implied disdain for my vehicle, which is not a real fourby apparently, I don't think I'd have taken you up on the offer anyway. Your assertion does however beg the question: So why did you not offer originally, instead of criticising my vehicle?? Plenty of people who are "into" cars would have offered straight up. But you never miss a chance to criticise my car first up huh Tony.... then make yourself feel better by saying "I would have offered this to you..." > > Trouble is you have forgotten to mention that the Challenger has the best > > wheel articulation (IE off road ability) of any of the mid size fourbies. > > Well bust my buttons, you must be very proud. and it probably has more > slide out drinks holders than any other vehicle too. Tony: "sh.t oh dear.... mod cons. Must be crap off road then I guess" <snip> > > Yes it is not a > > bloody Patrol or Cruiser with a 4" lift and airlockers front and back, but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of testosterone poisoning wears off, your brain starts working and you > grow up a bit. Ah Tony shows his true colours again. My Mitsi is not loaded with aftermarket parts, so therefore I, as the owner, must have a testosterone problem. And people with Challengers or testosteron problems are not allowed in aus.cars.offroad. Tony for President of the Internet. > > it does what I ask of it, which is take me down the softest beaches in > > Australia and get me over some rough stuff on the way. > > How nice, so did my ex-army Kombi. Are you actually coming to a point > sometime soon or are you just going to continue blathering? Well you started the criticism of the Challenger's offroad ability. (Soccer field carpark comment, I'm getting to that later). I stated it does some things that your list of softroaders *definitely do not*. Countering your assertions is "blathering" and not making a point is it? > > That is because is is *not* a bullshit AWD soft roader with no low range > > like the list you mention. In fact it is renowned for off road ability *at [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > apologise unreservedly, perhaps in the absence of being able to provide > that proof you will apologise? How is this for a quote from you....... "you see this is a discussion group for 4WD vehicles. 4WD in this context means vehicles likely to venture further off the bitumen than the dirt leading to the parking area at the local kids soccer ground." Let me tell you in plainer terms as you seem to not understand your own writing.......You basically said don't bring questions about a "Challenged Mitsi" (another quote from you) here, because this group is for real 4WD's. You have to admit that one, but I don't expect a sorry nonetheless. And then you have the indignance to say (above) that you would have given me the service sheets!!!???? Bullshit, Tony, you would not have, as this group is not the correct forum to discuss Challengers.... according to you. > Or will that testosterone poisoning condition I mentioned earlier prevent > that? > > > Didn't realise this was aus.cars.wankwank.i'vegot.abig. fourby. > > Actually it isn't, in spite of your best attempts to make it so! Again, I've asked a question about a standard midsized, not a heavily modded rockcrawler. How does that make it the case that I "attempt to make it so"? > > If you can't answer my question, don't get criticise my choice of fourby > > just so you can have a pull over how good yours is. If somebody asks a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > invective is many time greater than yours, some of them can actually be > quite creative in their use of it, they still don't impress me much. Yeah and so do I. What is your point, that I made a somewhat strongly worded reply back to you, so I should pull my head in because you are in some job that deals with the scum of society? Nobody backchats Tony Smith..... And apparently *I* am the one with too much testosterone (according to you). Wow, the pot calls the kettle black again. Also totally irrelevant to cars and wheel bearings I must say. > You aren't even in the hunt. You wouldn't know me from a bar of soap so let's not go there. I see no reason to, regardless of your *faceless* taunts. It is easy on the 'net huh. > > Is your w.nk mobile serviced by someone else? Do you know what a spanner > > looks like Tony?????? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > brains to even consider the more subtle aspects prior to the red mist > descending and getting involved in a good stoush. There goes the testosterone again. You don't like it when people take you to task on your rude, ill thought out rantings do you? Sorry for backchatting tough guy. But "red mist" was cool, that scared the bejeeeezus out of me. (PS that is sarcasm again, you missed it the first time so I thought I'd mention that) > Before I took up my current career, well actually before I took up what > was my career before that, I was a tradesman. Actually I suppose I still > AM a tradesman, just somewhat out of practice after 23 years. Yeah wow, you were a chippie or sparky, mechanic whatever, then went to the Army and learnt phrases like "red mist descending". Cool. I bet after your stint fixing tents or wiring up warehouses you told people you were in the chicken stranglers or 4RAR. Or did you just buy a Weatherby Red Mist and thought "gee I can use that and scare somebody" ??? The reason I asked about your mechanical knowledge was I thought I'd inquire as to why you mentioned "get the manual from your dealer" when my OP *did* imply I was after someone who had done the bearings before. You've swung a spanner before, so sorry. I submit to your supreme authority in all things mechanical. PS still love the red mist thing, can't wait to use it. > And yes I do know which end of a spanner does what. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > By your apparent attitude, most of your time on Usenet has been spent with > your hand firmly on it. No, I answer the questions I can for people. Those I can't answer, I read the thread and maybe learn something. > And seeing as you are so comfortable and happy in aus.cars, why don't you > crawl back there and rejoin your playmates? Yeah well, may be a good idea. Cos on all groups I've used so far, if a guy comes in with a stupid question like "how do I do up a wheel nut" or "how do I change my oil" etc, the replies are non-condescending, helpful and concise. And those responses are from the guys who have the fastest car in the country, mechanics, and backyard types alike. Very much unlike your rant about how my car doesn't qualify to be discussed here. > > To all the other guys who are not w.nkers like Tony, thanks for your reply. > > Oh, and by the way. Please pick up your dummy and take it with you, it's > right over there by the door where you spat it. Touche. PS: "red mist" is soooo cool. I'll be able to scare so many people with that. > > Oh, and by the way. Please pick up your dummy and take it with you, > > it's right over there by the door where you spat it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > PS: "red mist" is soooo cool. I'll be able to scare so many people > with that. I bow to your superior knowledge of weaponry, something that has never occupied more than a fleeting moment of my time. "Red Mist" refers to your obvious need to be combative, and stupid with it. That you managed to mis-translate it as some form of attempt on my part at "scaring" you, speaks volumes for your preferred method of operation, not mine. I can't be bothered dealing with the rest of your nonsense, especially the bits were you are still trying to attribute meanings I clearly didn't intend and words I do did not use, to me. But, hey, if it makes you feel better, you go right ahead. But to clear up one small thing, my local Mitsi dealer does (or at least as recently as late last year did) have a policy of assisting anyone doing their own work on vehicles. Still fools like you make a lifetime career out of burning bridges and then spend most of it harboring a dull insolent resentment because nobody ever want to help them. I'd invite you think on that, but you clearly lack the necessary equipment. Well, off you go then, gnash your teeth, stamp your feet, and anything else that make you feel better. Just be a good chap and go and do it in a group that is more accepting of your style of childishness thanks... And do pick that dummy up on your way out. SignatureTony Smith > Anyone???????? > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>going to suddenly have a spring in the roof of the workshop and a handfull >>of little bits on the ground....... I thik you'll find that the front end is or almost the same as the Pajero and Triton so maybe looking for info on those too might help Kev > > Anyone???????? > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Kev Yeah I am pretty sure it is Triton running gear all thru, with the old 3L Pajero motor. BTW thanks for the reply which was much less snobby than the "I'm not a soccer mum" reply that Tony sent. I knew that....... but as I said thanks for the constructive info, unlike Tony > I knew that....... but as I said thanks for the constructive info, > unlike Tony So suggesting you visit the dealer and get a copy of the factory service sheets for replacing wheel bearings, and adding that it is apparently company policy to make such things was not "helpful". You sir, are a big girl's blowse. SignatureTony Smith |
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