Are Hilux rims all the same?

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Freddy - 10 Apr 2006 16:28 GMT

I've been looking around for some used Sunrasia style rims, but I'm a bit
worried I might buy the wrong ones.

I was having new tyres fitted to my 84 Hilux (std rims) and turns out that 2
of the rims were too rusty and had to be chucked. The bloke said he had a
couple of Hilux rims out the back, but they were off a newer model and were
no good to me. What is the differance? Offset, stud position, something
else?

Also should I be going for 15" or 16"? What are the benifits of a
larger/smaller rims? Are 16" tyres (for example) more expensive than 15's?

Someone told me once that fitting rims with an offset that gives the car a
wider track can upset the dynamics of the suspension, also, obiously there
is the danger that they might rub inside the guard.

Oh - the car hasn't been "lifted".

Thanks
Freddy

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Scotty - 10 Apr 2006 21:37 GMT

> I've been looking around for some used Sunrasia style rims, but I'm a bit
> worried I might buy the wrong ones.
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> Thanks
> Freddy

Yes the offset if slightlt different on models. Just try as set on and see
what it looks like. If its stays within the guard you should be okay. Why
not pop into the wreckers and see if theres a cheap set there, you may even
get to a Surf wreckers and pick up a set of alloys cheap.

Benifits of smaller/larger rims. Well 16s will propbably rub adn throw yoru
speedo out. Stay with something like a 31/10.5-15 if thats whats fitted
already. It all depends on what ya do with your hilux. Is it 4x4 or 4x2? How
many road kms do you do? Do you drive on the beach lots or you prefer
Mud/snow. How long do you want them to last.

THen again, do you want ya truck to look cool as well?

Fill in those blanks and repost, we can supply a better answer for you.

Cheers

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Freddy - 11 Apr 2006 00:48 GMT

> Yes the offset if slightlt different on models. Just try as set on and see
> what it looks like. If its stays within the guard you should be okay. Why
> not pop into the wreckers and see if theres a cheap set there, you may even
> get to a Surf wreckers and pick up a set of alloys cheap.

Might be an option, but I sometimes think alloys on an offroader can look
kinda, well, sissy. But worth looking into.

> Benifits of smaller/larger rims. Well 16s will propbably rub adn throw yoru
> speedo out. Stay with something like a 31/10.5-15 if thats whats fitted
> already. It all depends on what ya do with your hilux. Is it 4x4 or 4x2? How
> many road kms do you do? Do you drive on the beach lots or you prefer
> Mud/snow. How long do you want them to last.

It's a 4X4 single cab tray (I keep forgetting there are 2wd 'lux's). It only
get used on w'ends for camping and offroading (and occasionaly helping
friends move house). It's fitted with 225/75R16 on the std split rims.
The 31 you refer to is the OD of the tyre right? What's the 10.5 mean? My
tyres measure 28.5" OD.
I hardly ever use it on beach or sand, mainly mud, hills and rocks the kind
of stuff you find on bush tracks in Vic.

> THen again, do you want ya truck to look cool as well?

Hell yea - finances permitting, of course, it's not my main car so I can't
afford to go absolutely nuts.

> Fill in those blanks and repost, we can supply a better answer for you.
>
> Cheers

Thanks Scotty

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Kev - 11 Apr 2006 01:45 GMT

>>Yes the offset if slightlt different on models. Just try as set on and see
>>what it looks like. If its stays within the guard you should be okay. Why
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> Might be an option, but I sometimes think alloys on an offroader can look
> kinda, well, sissy. But worth looking into.

for heavy offroading stick with the steelies, nothin worse than scraping
the sh.t outta your new alloys on rocks

>>Benifits of smaller/larger rims. Well 16s will propbably rub and throw your
>>speedo out. Stay with something like a 31/10.5-15 if thats whats fitted
>>already. It all depends on what ya do with your hilux. Is it 4x4 or 4x2?
>>How many road kms do you do? Do you drive on the beach lots or you prefer
>>Mud/snow. How long do you want them to last.

for 16 inch rims you would get something like 265-70-16
these are about 31 inch dia tyres so would be the same as fitting 15s
all new large 4WDs are 16 inch, some are even going 17

> It's a 4X4 single cab tray (I keep forgetting there are 2wd 'lux's). It only
> get used on w'ends for camping and offroading (and occasionaly helping
> friends move house). It's fitted with 225/75R16 on the std split rims.
> The 31 you refer to is the OD of the tyre right? What's the 10.5 mean? My
> tyres measure 28.5" OD.

the most common tyre is the 31-10.5-15
the 10.5 is the tyre width(10 1/2 inches)

> I hardly ever use it on beach or sand, mainly mud, hills and rocks the kind
> of stuff you find on bush tracks in Vic.

have a look at the Maxis tyres
they are cheap and you can get them in mud or At treads

>>THen again, do you want ya truck to look cool as well?
>
> Hell yea - finances permitting, of course, it's not my main car so I can't
> afford to go absolutely nuts.

well now time to start savin money then
6 inch suspesnion lift, ultra long travel springs and shocks, 38inch
tyres, diff locks, winchbar and winch etc.

Kev

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D Walford - 11 Apr 2006 07:51 GMT

> I've been looking around for some used Sunrasia style rims, but I'm a bit
> worried I might buy the wrong ones.

Best way to know if you have the correct rims is to bolt them to the
car, if they are offset too much inwards they will hit the steering arm
on full lock.
If they clear the steering arm make sure the tyres are covered by the
guards, if both of those things are ok then you have the correct rims.

> I was having new tyres fitted to my 84 Hilux (std rims) and turns out that 2
> of the rims were too rusty and had to be chucked. The bloke said he had a
> couple of Hilux rims out the back, but they were off a newer model and were
> no good to me. What is the differance? Offset, stud position, something
> else?

Second hand split rims for your model should be easy to find, they are
as common as mud.

> Also should I be going for 15" or 16"? What are the benifits of a
> larger/smaller rims? Are 16" tyres (for example) more expensive than 15's?

Split rims make it easier to repair a flat tyre yourself in the bush and
you usually don't need a special tool to break the bead like you do with
a one piece rim.
If you have no intention of repairing your own punctures then it doesn't
matter much either way.

Daryl

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Rainbow Warrior - 11 Apr 2006 13:19 GMT

> Someone told me once that fitting rims with an offset that gives the car a
> wider track can upset the dynamics of the suspension, also, obiously there
> is the danger that they might rub inside the guard.

Can't help you with the Toyota specific Q's, but a mate had a 40series that
handled like a pig, he had spent $4k on suspension, & steering then put new
tyres on it, still handled weird. One day we were just looking at it fron on
and realised one front tyre was in the guard while one hung out by 40mm, ,
back on one side was out by 20mm, in guard on the other. He had 3 different
offsets out of the 5 Sunraysia's that where on it when he brought it.

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