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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / June 2006Lightforce 240 XGT driving light filters - opinions please
Hi there, I just recently purchased a pair of Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights(yet to be installed). I really wanted the HIDs but couldn't justify the $2k price tag. Anyhow, I'd like to hear your feedback on some of the different coloured filters available for these lights. Are the coloured filters a commercial con to get me to spend more money un-necessarily or do they actually work and which do you recommend for general use and occassional offroading? I heard the blue filters give a really nice clear penertrating light. I intend to mount my 2 existing Hella 100w (rectangular spread beam)on the roof rack and place the XGTs smack bang in the middle of the bullbar. Is it worth investing in combo spread/pencil beam filters for the XGTs or just stick with the straight pencil beams? Regards, Pete > Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > bullbar. Is it worth investing in combo spread/pencil beam filters for > the XGTs or just stick with the straight pencil beams? Did you know that its illegal to mount lights higher than 1.2 mtrs? Most cops don't know the ADR's either so you would be unlucky to get fined but its still something you should know just in case. Daryl and its also illegal to have the blue filters on as well as i datsun driver i knew got busted for em i spose it was a datsun > Did you know that its illegal to mount lights higher than 1.2 mtrs? > Most cops don't know the ADR's either so you would be unlucky to get fined > but its still something you should know just in case. > > Daryl yeah I have 5 across the top of the roof on my F350 plus the 2 normal headlights and got told to take 1 off as you are only allowed 6 driving lights. So if you have a car with head/spot combo and lower driving lights (eg subaru wrc) you cannot mount any more lights. woodee >> Hi there, >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Daryl and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway with the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? woodee >> Hi there, >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Daryl >and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway >with the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? > >woodee I think it's 1.2m above the line of the original headlights. Not sure about this, but you'd have the same issue with trucks. I understood you could have lights up on top, provided they had covers that prevented them being operated on the highway. I understood that as long as they had the covers on, they were fine. I have 2 XGT's fitted in the middle of my bullbar, with just the clear filters to protect the lenses. I am considering at least one of the spot/spread combo filters to give me a bit better spread down the road. I also have 2 Hella 181's on the bullbar as well, which provide light on the side of the road more than along the road. I thought these 181's would be sufficient to get away with two XGT spots, but it doesnt work quite as I wanted. I might replace the 181's with another style of light, and maybe add a spot/spread filter to one of the XGT's. I had a spot/spread filter on my 240 Blitz lights on the previous cruiser, and it worked quite well. I havent found any reason to add a colour filter....... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back >>and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway >>with the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I think it's 1.2m above the line of the original headlights. Not sure > about this, but you'd have the same issue with trucks. Nope, I have a copy of the ADR, its from the ground. Most truck driving lights are lowerer than 1.2mtrs, the standard driving lights on my DAF primemover are in the bumper. > I understood you could have lights up on top, provided they had covers > that prevented them being operated on the highway. I understood that > as long as they had the covers on, they were fine. Possibly correct, no mention of covers in the ADR that I remember but if they are covered and can't be used then I doubt you could be fined. Daryl well how does scania get away with the driving lights moulded into the top of the roof? the roof line there would be atleast 3m >>>and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway with >>>the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Daryl > well how does scania get away with the driving lights moulded into the top > of the roof? the roof line there would be atleast 3m What model, I've never noticed one like that? Most truck have clearance lights on top of the cab but they are low wattage and certainly aren't driving lights. Daryl >> well how does scania get away with the driving lights moulded into the >> top of the roof? the roof line there would be atleast 3m [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Daryl The new model topline Scanias have a pair of driving lights in the sunvisor along the top of the windscreen how they got that passed I don't know I have seen them being used also Kev >>> well how does scania get away with the driving lights moulded into >>> the top of the roof? the roof line there would be atleast 3m [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > how they got that passed I don't know > I have seen them being used also I checked out the Scania web site, interesting that none of the trucks which have Vic rego have those lights but others do which is probably why I haven't seen any. Australian Design Rules only seem to apply in Victoria? Daryl current R*** hiline roof styles >> well how does scania get away with the driving lights moulded into the >> top of the roof? the roof line there would be atleast 3m [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Daryl Rod if ya use 240Blitz then you can adjust the lense focus to give the spread ya need.Thats whats on my toy and is all i need to travel the moonie from dalby to bollon. I have both just off spot so it lights up the table drains. Thats all i want and the reast of the focus is out front so i can aim for em. :P No point seein em on the side as ya cant hit em by the time ya see em Fig On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 02:29:00 GMT, "Figjam \(AKA Biggus Dickus\)" <Figjam@home.kom.ayu> wrote: >Rod if ya use 240Blitz then you can adjust the lense focus to >give the spread ya need.Thats whats on my toy and is all i need [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Fig Fig, We had 240 Blitz's on the old cruiser, but I took them off when the car was handed over to the overseer. The reflectors hung out through the bullbar, and I could see he would rub them off in a day or two... I found I still needed a spot/spread filter on the blitz's to get a reasonable spread at the edges of the road. One without, and one with gave me a pretty good spread.. The old cruiser has Ralley 4000's on it, mounted back behind the bar. Not a week after I changed them out, I had an altercation with a VERY snotty old cow, and we had a number of head-ons across a paddock. The last impact rattled my fillings, and I was sure she had buggered the 4000's, ruptured the radiator, etc, etc... Turns out her horns were too wide for her to get between the bulbar posts, and the cruiser was fine. She, however, had a decent headache! The 240 Blitz's ended up being my shooting spotlights... The new cruiser has a pair of 240 XGT's on it, and they fit behind the new bullbar nicely. 16 months down the track, and they are working well... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back > and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway > with the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? Technically they should make you remove the lot but as I said most cops don't know the ASR's so you get away with it. Daryl > and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway with > the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? > > woodee Your bumper is more than 1.2 off the ground? Your suspentions been raised over legal height then, another defect. DOH !! >>and another thing, my headlights would be 1.2m off the ground anyway with >>the height of my ute. what do they do about that ? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Your bumper is more than 1.2 off the ground? Your suspentions been raised > over legal height then, another defect. > I just recently purchased a pair of Lightforce 240 XGT driving > lights(yet to be installed). I really wanted the HIDs but couldn't > justify the $2k price tag. Interested in a HID kit to go into the Blitz 240 or XGT lights? I first saw my first set of 240HID's on a hilux at Round 2 winch challenge round 2 at Kandos, NSW in 2002. HID kits back then still cost a bit. These days you get get them from anywhere from $150.00 to 1600.00+ Look on ebay for kits , (search for 'HID kit'). THey usually go for around $220 to $300 for a 35watt kit, or $330.00 for a 42 watt kit. 50 watt kits from Bit Distribution are around $490.00 delivered. Bloody awesome they are. ANyway, I really really really really wanted a set of HID's in my first Blitz's. So I went a modifiying. I've now done five Blitz's for myself (4x 35watt kits, 1x 50watt kit and one 42watt kit in an XGT). Hate to yabber on about this but am now trying to sell the instructions and adapters as a do-it-yourself kit for next to nix ($10 and $15) 50watt kits in the Blitz 240 are truly *mind blowing* the amount of light that they put out. One blitz with a 50w bulb in it just totally blew away two of the real Lightforce 240HID's. Heaps of info on http://hid.isclever.com on whacking in HID kits on various other lights. IPF's and Hella's with before and after pics. Must get around to doing a bull light conversion some time. > Anyhow, I'd like to hear your feedback on > some of the different coloured filters available for these lights. Red and green are more for animal spot lighting, however red is pleasing to the eye once you get used to seeing everything red. Blue is better suited for snowy conditions. Not overly flash is dust!! Havent tried the green cover yet... Yellow is sweet in fog. I've got yellow filters on my 6000k HID bulbs on my Blitz 240's and they give a nice green outlook on life. They're also spread so picks up skippy on the side better, etc. > bullbar. Is it worth investing in combo spread/pencil beam filters for > the XGTs or just stick with the straight pencil beams? Go with the spread covers. You wont be disappointed! Saw some not long ago on ebay - bloke wanted $10.00 each for them. >Did you know that its illegal to mount lights higher than 1.2 mtrs? >Most cops don't know the ADR's either so you would be unlucky to get >fined but its still something you should know just in case. Headlights: yes. Auxially lighting: no. ADR 13 states that there is NO SPECIFIED height restrictions to mounting auxillary lighting, ie, spotties. They need to be switched on/off only when hi-beam is on, and must be able to be isolated. Ie, cant have an overirde switch on them, like I do. And must be switchable from your normal headlight hi-beam. Done. Any police or RTA officer who says that the above is crap... show them the current ADR's, Take them to court, whatever. Or do what I do and keep a copy of the current ADR's in your glove box next to ya engineering certificate. Did you know that reverse lights can not be any higher than 1.00 metre from the ground? Did you know that brake lights and blinkers can not be any higher than 1.20 metres from the ground? See them new Honda CRV's around the place? They be illegal, according to the current ADR's.... go figure. dave. (A HID fanatic) |
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